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    Okay thanks bud, and sorry what I meant is when you look up parts in salvage yards they have either 1" diameter lugholes or 1 5/16" lug holes that's where I wasn't sure what the difference was.

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    the lugs are 1/2"-20 on a 5x4.5" bolt circle

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    They of course fit without a sweat thanks guys. I couldn't get my 235 tires to work, found out they were cracked and dry rotted I should've looked at them closer but oh well. So I caved in and bought a set of stock size winter tires for the old girl. Wish I had a heated garage so I could do other work the car needs but it's slowly coming around.

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    Yeah I love turbines. So I decided to take the car on the highway today, and the gas mileage is abysmal, to my destination was 14 at 65mph and roughly 16 at 60mph on the way back. I only drove 90 miles back and forth but I figured that should be a pretty indication of what the mileage is roughly. I know it should be way better than that, but all I can think is the obvious new plugs wires, maybe a distributor cap, and of course check for vacuum leaks. The car revs up a bit when in park in spurts than calms down so I'm guessing it's gotta have a vac leak somewhere. Anything else I should look for?

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    Hunting idle in park might be a sticky IAC. Your list of things to check isn't bad if it hasn't been done. I'd keep an eye on the back spark plugs for any fouling.

    Any idea to what rear gear is in there? My '87 has the 3.27 axle, and when it was still a LoPo, the best it ever managed was 21 MPG at 67 MPH. Never did it since. Around town usually was 14-15 MPG. I saw 20 MPG a handful of times between 65-68 MPH, but it dropped off quick above that.

    After the HO conversion on my car, it seems to get roughly 16-18 MPG between 65-75 MPH, and won't do better. In town, 11-14 MPG is average. Į\_(ツ)_/Į I just chalk it up to the fact the entire design of the car is an assault on the air.

    Some folks manage way better with even more aggressive gears, and some people don't do much better than I do with more "economy" geared cars. Seems to be the luck of the draw. Also, if you ever catch the factory 1987 MPG rating, you'll get a good chuckle out of it. Somehow our cars got rated at 17 city / 27 highway.

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    I just picked this thing up last summer, I have no idea what gears it's running. How could I find that out? It's the GS if that helps lol. I know my 86 was rated 16/24 that was the first year they introduced EFI instead of the carb but I figured the 87 should at least be close to that. Would bad exhaust also rob mileage? I know the cat isn't plugged but the exhaust has rust holes in it cause the car is a bit loud. I average 14 in town roughly too so figure highway would at least be 18+ but not even close. This is my old one I had years ago, thing was in rough shape obviously, idled like garbage but had new exhaust and plugs and wires. I averaged 22-24 highway with that pig somehow..

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    If the door sticker is still visible, you can check that for the axle code. Also, the differential may also have the ratio code tag attached, but at this point, anything is up to chance. Could be 2.73s, 3.08s, 3.27s... 3.55s were available too, but I've only ever seen those on a tow package car.

    A plugged exhaust would drop mileage, but if there's no restrictions (and I don't think rust holes would be a restriction), that's probably not the culprit.

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    Sounds good I'll see if I check underneath the car and find a code, the sticker on the door is gone unfortunately. All I can think is the car needs a good tune up and who knows if the O2 sensors are toast or not. The motor on this car is also pretty tired, it does the classic engine light flicker at idle after being on the highway so it gets low on oil pressure, could that play a big part depending how bad the motor shape is? Still seems to have all the power with not much hesitation..ah well have a lot of fun work this summer to do to her lol.

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    Also found out the gear ratio is 2.73s

    I also forgot since I donít have the smog pump running could that be contributing too? Maybe I should put that other belt back on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwiztidRat View Post
    Also found out the gear ratio is 2.73s

    I also forgot since I don’t have the smog pump running could that be contributing too? Maybe I should put that other belt back on it.
    Doubtful. Mine was internally gutted when I got my car, and I eventually took it off along with all the hoses since it didn't do anything.

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    Ok well I know she has vac leaks and probably could use a tune up so iíll focus on those, does the gears matter as in she should be getting higher with 2.73s? Maybe the winter just really robs these cars too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwiztidRat View Post
    Ok well I know she has vac leaks and probably could use a tune up so i’ll focus on those, does the gears matter as in she should be getting higher with 2.73s? Maybe the winter just really robs these cars too.
    2.73s are highway gears. My '97 had them factory. Very nice for MPG at cruise speed, not very exciting for quick take off. In theory you should net decent highway economy, but obviously not everything in perfect in practice. Mechanical condition of the car is obviously a major factor, but also environmental conditions, how you drive the car, and things like that will affect economy. You might pick up some mileage in your tuneup and vacuum line repairs, or it might just stay the same. These cars can be quite odd, no two seem to be exactly the same even when configured similarly.

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    Yeah, either way it can only help benefit the car so if I get better mileage I guess that'll be a bonus, the car doesn't see much highway anyways so it's not a big deal. I don't drive it heavy cause I already know the condition this motor is in so I am easy on the pedal, but when I get to it I'll give her new plugs and wires, and make sure the vac leaks are fixed. After that...nothing else I can really do lol. Thanks for your help bro.

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    2.73 are not helpful around town at all. Much easier to get moving with a 3.08 or 3.27

    also I'm not much for babying the throttle. Give it if you have to, if it blows up it was broken anyway.

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    Good point gadget, I know the motor has low oil pressure at idle so drive it till she blows basically. By the way guys I tried replacing the wiper blades and each blade I tried installing in the pins wouldn't stay on the arm. The pin length is simply too short..either the wiper arms aren't the ones that are suppose to be on or is there something else I'm missing? I prefer hooks myself.

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    I run a conventional Trico 181 wiper blade. Never had a problem. It’s an older design and it wouldn’t surprise me if some of the newer ones don’t fit our stuff like they are supposed to. You do have to push them down on there hard.
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    Yeah I had to push them in their with a good amount of force but they could easily come off still. I'll try some trico's, only reason i wanted to replace em was cause the previous guy put an 18" and 16" blade on there.

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    I've seen some of the blades have two holes for the large and small pins. If you try using our pins on the large hole, it won't engage right.

    I'm using the even more basic Trico 31 series (P/N 31-180), but they're similar to the 18-1 Tiggie has. Regardless, the pin should have a bit of the end sticking out the top side. If it doesn't clear and latch on, you may want to try a different blade.

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    Iím using bosch blades, Iíd steer clear. The blades are fine but they use this big adaptor for our cars so when the blades park the adaptor hits the hood and sort of gets stuck so they pop when activated and parking. It canít be good for the motor. I have a set of tricos going on soon.


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