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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainemantom View Post
    On the pre 79 back seat. I doubt it will fit. Pre 79s are wider.
    Got it. Nevertheless, the guy has a seat from a sedan, so it does not really help.

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    Regarding the title: The title is different from the shipping and customs documents. Title was given by the insurance company as salvage. At that time the car was whole. What happened after it was sold to the buyer is another story. When a vehicle arrives in a country it is taxed on that country's rules. When "parts" arrive. the tax can be much less. The title from the US may or may not be used to register the vehicle when it is put back together. It is possible that your car arrived as a whole car OR it came as parts. You may never know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arquemann View Post
    Caprices and box panthers sold new in Finland are often easy to identify, ain't got shit for options: no power locks, crank windows, partial power seats, no AC, no cruise, but it's gotta be a wagon.
    As far as I am concerned, same for Poland, when it comes to eg. Geo Metro, or Dodge Neon. As basic as possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arquemann View Post
    That Caprice you linked, I've never seen such, so much ornamentation. Is that just due to... Catholicism?
    Rather keep up with the Joneses. But it's a part of the Polish version of Catholicism, which is... somewhat special.

    Best examples have 3 rows of seats, each a different color.
    Saw it in case of Volvos, but never in case of amcar hearses. Generally people assume they will use them as panel vans, or something like that. If it was a Mercedes, then getting a set of spare seats is not that difficult as in case of amcars.

    In the meantime!
    Found some ~30 minutes today to fiddle with the CV. Mechs did a nice job cutting all the screws etc. so I could take some of the hearse upholstery down. Managed to dismantle the coffin lift, and all the floor panels. The effect is as below:





    Also, inspected the backseat. Looks like the lower part is original, with new fabric, and that small "backrest" is actually the upper part of the original backrest. The white stuff all over the place is snow.



    I really love the SPARE letters on the spare tyre!

    Next session - on Sunday. I will try to get rid of the hearse fabric from door panels, and maybe dismantle the separator wall.

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    Another busy day!

    I started with seeking for the original sticker. It was in place, but heavily damaged. Can we still learn anything from it?


    The second step was to find the the original options sheet. It was in place, damaged, but not that much as in the Colon:


    Those thing were found by the way. Probably gonna keep 'em, they look quite decent.


    Another step was to dismantle the door mats and see if they are still ok, under the hearse upholstery. They are somewhat damaged, but salvageable, I guess... BTW: was the car white, and than repainted to burgundy and THEN to black, or this white-ish colour is the protective undercoat paint? The whole car is painted with that, as far as I have found.




    Now, it's time to say goodbye to the zombie apocalypse protector screen...


    And here we are! There were only two screws that kept it in place. The car looks far more clean now than it was when acquired.


    As most of the unused hearse stuff was already driven to the garage today, I decided to hide the spare parts in the underground compartment. There is still plenty of space inside.


    And two final photos from today. This is what I have at the moment. Hearse upholstery remains on pillars, tailgate cover, left cargo compartment doors, and left rear door mat. I am going to get rid of them during the next visit.



    Found an info how much coolant gas should be ingested. 1.5kg is quite a large amount, I think?


    A close-up of one of the scrapped tyres I got the car with. Probably around 20 years old!


    The plan for the nearest future is to get a working battery for the car, and find a replacement for the backseat. I friend of mine is running a small yard, and we are going to try a few beige seats from EU cars tomorrow. This is quite important as I need to have the rear seat complete with belts if I want to have the car registered for 5 passengers, not just 2.

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    Hmm. We really need to find you a seat back. I would think you can make one of of a sedan with a fair amount of custom work but having the real thing would certainly make life easier.

    Can't tell too much from your door sticker. I see that it was originally ordered for the Philadelphia, Pennsylvania district. 3.08 open rear axle ratio. The exterior color is on the part that's disappeared.

    As far as original color, the buildsheet has it if you can read it. Look at the top right above the box that says "seats". There is an H there and something else. EH or 2H would be the medium Cabernet (dark red/maroon). AH would be the pastel alabaster (light tan).
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    With you finding the white color ever where I would say the car was white from birth. Factory did not add any protective sprays anywhere.
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    That one pic with your wagon cleared out makes it look as if you're getting ready to put out some serious decibels LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggie View Post
    Hmm. We really need to find you a seat back. I would think you can make one of of a sedan with a fair amount of custom work but having the real thing would certainly make life easier.
    No matter how I do appreciate your kind offer of helping me, I am afraid that getting one from the US might not work at all at the moment. As far as I am concerned, the price for the shipping solely would be around 500 dollars, which is kinda high, I guess? The sedan one could be an idea, but panther sedans are even less popular in Europe.
    An idea we got with a friend is to search German offers, as he has a couple of friends there and someone could pick it up, and arrange sending (price would be around 100 dollars, I guess - getting the Lakeside reed organs from Leiden to Kraków was around that price). If only I were travelling to the Netherlands as I used to, that could also be an option.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggie View Post
    Can't tell too much from your door sticker. I see that it was originally ordered for the Philadelphia, Pennsylvania district. 3.08 open rear axle ratio. The exterior color is on the part that's disappeared.

    As far as original color, the buildsheet has it if you can read it. Look at the top right above the box that says "seats". There is an H there and something else. EH or 2H would be the medium Cabernet (dark red/maroon). AH would be the pastel alabaster (light tan).
    Thanks! I managed to scan the buildsheet today:

    I presume it is listed as AH - so pastel alabaster, like this: http://topclassiccarsforsale.com/for...-original.html ? That was certainly a beautiful car once. The interior steel panels, like that of the cargo compartment, are beige, so that would fit...


    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post
    With you finding the white color ever where I would say the car was white from birth. Factory did not add any protective sprays anywhere.
    Maybe the body went through a more extensive coating then? Placing a white underpaint, conserving, magenta colour, and then the final black one? Still looks weird to me...

    Quote Originally Posted by packman View Post
    That one pic with your wagon cleared out makes it look as if you're getting ready to put out some serious decibels LOL
    Well, that would be a solution to the backseat problem

    In the meantime, checked a couple of rear seats today. The ones from Passat and Volvo 850 do not fit well, they are too narrow, same for V40, BUT! The one from Lancia Lybra looks moreover the right size, and he just measured the last one, light beige, leather, from Volvo S60, and this one should be moreover the needed width. It is not a perfect one, but the price is around 10 dollars... so I can give it a try. As a temporary seat, it could be a good starter.
    Also, there are a few stretch towncars for parts, but their seats are expensive, and black. So they wouldn't look much better than the one from Volvo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bnw View Post
    Thanks! I managed to scan the buildsheet today:

    I presume it is listed as AH - so pastel alabaster, like this: http://topclassiccarsforsale.com/for...-original.html ? That was certainly a beautiful car once. The interior steel panels, like that of the cargo compartment, are beige, so that would fit...
    I think so. The cargo area in both of mine are body color. So that buried cargo area is probably original exterior paint.
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    +1, cargo area sports the original color.
    I really like that color combo on a wagon, but I'm also a bit partial since that's the color my '88 Country Squire was.
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    So, did a few things today, and the results are nice. I drove to my friends house today, and picked up the seats. He prepared two of them: chamois leather, beige, from a Lybra estate, and leather, light beige, from a Volvo S60. I decided to test them both. First, Lybra:






    Pros:
    -> good colour match;
    -> "baroque" style that moreover fits the CV;
    -> similar shape of headrests.

    Cons:
    -> different seat mounting points;
    -> large, black plastic covers of backrest mounting points;
    -> pre-installed belt sockets so I would need to find Lybra belts;
    -> a bit too narrow;
    -> does not fit the doors/floor well.

    Therefore, I decided to not unpack them at all, and test the S60 ones:









    Pros:
    -> seat nearly the same size, fits well;
    -> relatively good width;
    -> cover panels seem to fit surprisingly well with door armrests;
    -> they are from a sedan, so they operate in similar manner, eg. the seat remains in position, while the backrest is folded down.

    Cons:
    -> colour mismatch, beige is too light;
    -> different headrests;
    -> different style than the front seats.

    Nevertheless, I decided to go for them. Getting a proper replacement is not possible atm, and I want to do some progress on the car. I am thinking of doing a slight repaint of the seats, and maybe figuring out a different set of headrests, so they match the front seats. On the other hand, there is a number of CVs/MGMs with TC seats, so... Let's see.

    The next step is to fill the AC with R-gas, as it turned out to be hole-free. Also, the mechs are going to do the last inspection of the underbelly: if the car passes it, it will receive the protective coating, and the exhaust will be refitted soon. That + interior cleaning, painting, and seat installation + emblems should be enough to start the registration process.

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    Wagons never came with headrests on the rear seats. You should just do away with them. WagonMan
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    Not too bad at all. Gotta do the best you can with what you have available. I say it looks better than I expected.
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