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    thing with the chain on this one, it can be sloppy and won't affect how it runs all that much since the timing is triggered off the crank. The slack won't affect it. Easy enough to see if you need to worry though. Pull the distributor cap off and put a breaker bar on the crank pulley. 15/16" IIRC. Rock the crank back and forth and note how far it goes before the rotor moves. A tight chain will have very little crank movement before the rotor moves.

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    Iíll have to give that a try when I get a chance.

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    I have an appointment to get the exhaust leak fixed Friday. Iíve put about 600 miles on the car so far in the two weeks Iíve had it. No leaks, trans fluid looks really good, no oil consumption granted itís a little early to tell. The receipt I have from June shows that thereís just over 1,000 miles on the oil and filter. Plugs, wires, cap, and rotor were also changed back in June. Why the previous owner spent the money on a K&N oil filter but didnít replace the filthy and undersized air filter Iíll never know.

    Everything seems to be going good other than that issue I had from the fuel pump inertia switch. My NOS one showed up this morning and I got it installed. The old one was so bad you could tap it with your hand and trip it.

    I noticed ďMade in EnglandĒ on both the original and replacement switch. Iím thinking Lucas? No wonder it was an issue, I also recall that gadget73 was having issues with his at the last ScottFest I made it to, 2015 if I recall correctly?

    I really need to stop treating this thing like itís my daily, but itís just so nice to drive.

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    Turns out my problem was actually the connector. I got another inertia switch from the yard because I thought that was it, but the plug fell apart when I went to change it. The terminals were cooked. Changed the plug and the switch and it's been fine since.


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    Had the exhaust leak fixed today. They replaced the passenger side air pipe for the smog pump. I ordered that through work, my cost was about $25. Also got a new muffler and tail pipe, everything else was good. Shop cost was $75 and it doesnít sound like a farm truck anymore.

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    Does anyone here know for sure whether or not all Mark VIís came with the turn signal lenses with the Lincoln emblem in them?

    Mine donít have them so Iím figuring theyíre an aftermarket replacement, then again I also know that little things changed on the Mark VI between 1980-83.

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    I got an answer to my last question from gadget73 over on LincolnsOnline.

    But I have another question, this one about A/C. I haven't messed with an A/C system in about 10 years and even then I only so so knew what I was doing. I noticed while sitting in line at a drive through tonight for between 5 and 10 minutes that the A/C compressor never cycled on/off it just ran constantly. Is this normal or is it a sign that the system could be over filled? My '88 MGM used to cycle a fair bit but at the same time I don't know if that was right. I could never tell what was going on with the newer panthers like my '02 LSE because you can't really tell that the compressor is running unless your watching it.

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    On hot days, the A/C compressor will seldom cycle, if at all. When it’s a bit milder you’ll catch more normal cycling activity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kodachrome Wolf View Post
    On hot days, the A/C compressor will seldom cycle, if at all. When it’s a bit milder you’ll catch more normal cycling activity.
    Thanks, that was quick.

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    Yah, what K wolf said. You know it's probably good if it's hot as balls yet the compressor never cycles, at least at idle. If is cycling, probably low and or other issues lurking. Not an A/C guy, but like the Lynyrd Skynyrd song, I know a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerekTheGreat View Post
    Yah, what K wolf said. You know it's probably good if it's hot as balls yet the compressor never cycles, at least at idle. If is cycling, probably low and or other issues lurking. Not an A/C guy, but like the Lynyrd Skynyrd song, I know a little.
    Good to know, it was about 85 degrees with equal humidity.

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    there is a temperature vs cycles per minute chart in the service manuals but generally over 80 or so it runs pretty steady, especially at idle.

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    So I'm trying to narrow down this random no start issue. The car always ends up starting eventually and once it's running it's good, and will re start just fine if I shut it off. The issue seems to arise after it sits for 8 plus hours. I've determined that any time it happens I do in fact have spark, I also know that the fuel pump is running. My guess is that when the car sits all of the fuel in the lines runs back to the tank, and when I go to start it I have to refill the entire fuel line from tank to engine. So I guess my big question is what is supposed to keep fuel from returning to the tank when the car isn't running? I'm thinking that is what I need to look into.

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    If I'm not mistaken, and I very well could be, the check valve is part of the pump itself.
    If you can reproduce the issue every time in the morning or after the car has been sitting try turning the key multiple times to the run position but not as far as the start position. After doing that several time the pump should prime the lines and if it starts right up then your suspicion of fuel would be confirmed. This assumes you have an electric in-tank pump like the sefi boxes up to '89 that I'm used to dealing with, which I'm pretty sure it does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VicCrownVic View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, and I very well could be, the check valve is part of the pump itself.
    If you can reproduce the issue every time in the morning or after the car has been sitting try turning the key multiple times to the run position but not as far as the start position. After doing that several time the pump should prime the lines and if it starts right up then your suspicion of fuel would be confirmed. This assumes you have an electric in-tank pump like the sefi boxes up to '89 that I'm used to dealing with, which I'm pretty sure it does.
    That's what I've been doing and it's been working but it's still annoying. The issue isn't always repeatable at the same intervals. Usually it takes 8+ hours until I have the issue, yesterday it was about 20 minutes after I shut the car off, today about 2 hours. Yet I let it sit for over 12 hours last night and it fired right up when I went to work this morning. Other times it's gone up to 3 days without giving me an issue.

    According to the records I have the pump was replaced about 15,000 miles ago, but that was also back in 2002. I have service records going back to 1985 with no apparent gaps showing that this car has 33,000 mile on it. The title says 132,000 because either someone didn't know or the title department pulled their typical crap with 5 digit odometers. Ohio usually doesn't do a forced mileage discrepancy but it can happen. All of our title departments/registration offices are privately owned and run now and none of them seem to know what's going on.

    I have no intention of replacing the fuel pump unless I absolutely have too, I wonder if there is a simple way to get the pump to continuously run when the key is in the run position? Or if that would negatively affect anything?

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    Its driven from the ECM, and it only gets turned on when it sees crank rotation. Slightly later ones can be hot-wired so the pump is on any time the key is on by adding a jumper in the self-test connector but I have no idea if EEC-III also has that.

    Probably a couple of reasons that it works like it does. One is likely to keep the engine from flooding in case of a leaky injector. Also probably something about safety in the event of an accident. If the inertia trip didn't kick and a fuel line was ruptured it would just keep pumping even if the engine stalled. May also be to reduce current load when the engine isn't running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    Its driven from the ECM, and it only gets turned on when it sees crank rotation. Slightly later ones can be hot-wired so the pump is on any time the key is on by adding a jumper in the self-test connector but I have no idea if EEC-III also has that.

    Probably a couple of reasons that it works like it does. One is likely to keep the engine from flooding in case of a leaky injector. Also probably something about safety in the event of an accident. If the inertia trip didn't kick and a fuel line was ruptured it would just keep pumping even if the engine stalled. May also be to reduce current load when the engine isn't running.
    Hmm..... There doesn't seem to be an easy way around this then. I wonder how many starters I'll go leaving it as is? Maybe I can find the correct number of times to turn the key to on to fill the lines every time.

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    Do the CFI cars have a test port for fuel pressure like the SEFI cars do? I would imagine so but I haven't looked for it. That would help to confirm my suspicion.

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    eec-iv has it somewhere on top of the CFI unit, not sure about yours but if its anywhere I'd expect it to be there. Pop the air cleaner, should be right there on top where the two injectors are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercurygm88 View Post
    Hmm..... There doesn't seem to be an easy way around this then. I wonder how many starters I'll go leaving it as is? Maybe I can find the correct number of times to turn the key to on to fill the lines every time.
    There is a hack way of doing it.... I saw this on an '89 F150 I helped Derek pickup last year. Someone had put an inline fuel pump on the truck because the in tank pump presumably died. In fact, this hack job was the reason he got it for so cheap, it wouldn't start. Turns out the hack wiring was loose or not making good connection at the inline pump, the truck started right up when we wiggled that wiring and we laughed our asses off when it started after 30 seconds of work.
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