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    I could be totally wrong here but I’m guessing that center bolt seen at the 20 second mark is the top nut for the assembly and the bottom nut is somewhere in that hole below the bulb wiring?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9e-Ze6WrE

    This is all I could find in the service manual. And yes it looks like the lens/bulb housing is meant to be one piece. My luck I’ll find out I spent a bunch of money for something I can’t even use.

    Last edited by mercurygm88; 10-08-2021, 06:58 PM.
    2002 Mercury Grand Marquis LSE, Sylvania Zevo LED Headlights, MSD Blaster Coils, K&N Cold Air Intake, Dual Exhaust, 3.27's - Dally Driver

    1983 Lincoln Continental Mark VI, Smog Delete - Summer Cruiser


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      Originally posted by mercurygm88 View Post
      I could be totally wrong here but I’m guessing that center bolt seen at the 20 second mark is the top nut for the assembly and the bottom nut is somewhere in that hole below the bulb wiring?

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9e-Ze6WrE

      This is all I could find in the service manual. And yes it looks like the lens/bulb housing is meant to be one piece. My luck I’ll find out I spent a bunch of money for something I can’t even use.

      Update: I was able to remove one of the housings, easier to remove than install. The bottom nut is a bitch and you can barely turn a ratchet in there.

      The aftermarket lenses/housings that I have are simply marked “Made in Mexico, Tucan” I’ve never heard of this Tucan company.

      The bad news is that on my lights the lens and housing appears to be molded as one piece. Without heavy modification and cutting that I don’t trust myself to do I’m not seeing a way of making the new lenses work.

      Looks like it’s time to try to fight a refund out of the seller or try to resell these and recoup what I can.

      Stupid me should have looked into this in the first place but I just assumed the lens was a separate piece.
      2002 Mercury Grand Marquis LSE, Sylvania Zevo LED Headlights, MSD Blaster Coils, K&N Cold Air Intake, Dual Exhaust, 3.27's - Dally Driver

      1983 Lincoln Continental Mark VI, Smog Delete - Summer Cruiser


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        The aftermarket ones are probably sonic welded together rather than glued like the OE stuff. And yeah... getting that apart cleanly would probably require a temperature controlled hot knife/razor/wire to melt them apart at a low enough temp to not burn anything. Probably about 200C or so. Then sanding the edge smooth to mount the new lens to. Yeah... lots of work there. I mean you could use an abrasive saw (cut-off wheel) and cut the lens off slightly proud of the reflector side and then sand down to a flat surface for mounting and clean it out. That might work too. Not sure what you would want to glue that with though. I don't know of anything that wouldn't look crap in there that would actually last a good long time. I'd probably end up using plastic welder epoxy (cures beige) or JB Weld Marine Weld (it cures white).

        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
        rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
        Originally posted by gadget73
        ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
        Originally posted by dmccaig
        Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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          huh, construction is different than what I remembered. I was thinking the chrome piece had the reflector attached to it, and the clear lens fitted into the chrome piece with butyl. maybe thats the Mark V then?
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            Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
            huh, construction is different than what I remembered. I was thinking the chrome piece had the reflector attached to it, and the clear lens fitted into the chrome piece with butyl. maybe thats the Mark V then?
            I was kind of hoping for something like that, or the lens fitting into the chrome piece separate from the bulb housing, but it isn't so.
            2002 Mercury Grand Marquis LSE, Sylvania Zevo LED Headlights, MSD Blaster Coils, K&N Cold Air Intake, Dual Exhaust, 3.27's - Dally Driver

            1983 Lincoln Continental Mark VI, Smog Delete - Summer Cruiser


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              I was bored so here’s a video!

              https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-tTfE7zOVM0

              That horrible knocking/clattering that sounds like an old diesel is coming from the smog pump. I’m not sure what it’s up to but I can’t imagine it’s good. I imagine I’ll wait until it blows up or does whatever failed smog pumps do before I worry about it. It only does it for a minute or two on a cold start.

              A replacement smog pump is well over $200 even with my work discount, which is ridiculous but I require working cruise control and if I remember right the smog pump is pretty much required for that.
              2002 Mercury Grand Marquis LSE, Sylvania Zevo LED Headlights, MSD Blaster Coils, K&N Cold Air Intake, Dual Exhaust, 3.27's - Dally Driver

              1983 Lincoln Continental Mark VI, Smog Delete - Summer Cruiser


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                For 107.95 you can send your smog pump in to be re-manufactured through Rock Auto.
                How does a smog pump relate to the cruise control ?
                Last edited by Mainemantom; 10-09-2021, 10:47 PM.

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                  That’s much better than the price of the Cardone remans through work. My only issue with using a shorter belt is that I know the smog pump supplied most if not all of the vacuum for the cruise control on my 88 Grand Marquis. When I was having trouble getting a functional vacuum T for the HVAC on that car I actually temporarily hooked the HVAC vacuum like that went to the T under the hood to the vacuum side of the smog pump so that the system would stop defaulting to defrost. I’m figuring the Mark VI has the same set up.
                  Last edited by mercurygm88; 10-09-2021, 10:52 PM.
                  2002 Mercury Grand Marquis LSE, Sylvania Zevo LED Headlights, MSD Blaster Coils, K&N Cold Air Intake, Dual Exhaust, 3.27's - Dally Driver

                  1983 Lincoln Continental Mark VI, Smog Delete - Summer Cruiser


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                    There's a bypass valve on the smog pump that supplies supplemental vacuum to the cruise control servo to keep it solid on those long up-hill climbs.

                    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                    rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
                    Originally posted by gadget73
                    ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
                    Originally posted by dmccaig
                    Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                      No smog pump here on my vic. Cruise works fine.
                      ~David~

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                      My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                      Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                      But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                      Originally posted by gadget73
                      my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                        Every time I look at everything involved in the smog pump system I decide that I have no desire to go through the trouble of removing everything and plugging the backs of the heads and the cats. My desire to tinker on things only goes so far, and my desire to actually work on projects only involves certain things.

                        It’s much easier to just have it there in a possible inoperable state. My smog pump is like my EGR I don’t know if it’s working but I know the car is running fine.
                        2002 Mercury Grand Marquis LSE, Sylvania Zevo LED Headlights, MSD Blaster Coils, K&N Cold Air Intake, Dual Exhaust, 3.27's - Dally Driver

                        1983 Lincoln Continental Mark VI, Smog Delete - Summer Cruiser


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                          I don't know how different the smog system is on a EEC-III system, but I can't possibly figure out any way that the smog pump would do anything else than pump air to the heads and cats.
                          Mine is smog deleted and I haven't found any difference in the car's behaviour (I removed the smog pump due to awful bearing noise). Cruise control takes a while to kick in, but it's been like that always for me.

                          What comes to doing the smog delete: it's pretty easy. And I'd assume the Thermactor and EGR are two completely separate entities in your car aswell.
                          In the simplest form disabling the Thermactor is just unplugging the TAD/TAB solenoids on the pass. fender.

                          I've personally removed all of the smog pump stuff, pump came out in 20 minutes, threw on a shorter belt and off I go. The solenoids, vacuum lines and air tubing took about half an hour to remove.
                          Cap off the vacuum nipple at the vacuum distribution block, mount the MAP sensor and plug the two check valves going to the heads and cats. I used plastic furniture plugs from a hardware store, 2,49€ for 4. Even the one next to the passenger header has held up fine.
                          I'll install the plug bolts into the backs of the heads next spring, since I'll get more access with the CFI, vacuum mess and intake removed.
                          1985 Mercury Grand Marquis LS, "Maisa"
                          1995 Chevrolet Caprice Classic STW, "Sally"

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                            With the lopo, getting up the hill on a grade would cause you to need to open the throttle enough that if the grade lasted long enough (2-5 miles), the vacuum would degrade enough for the servo to let go since it's vacuum assisted. When you leveled out and throttle closed back up, it would engage again if the cruise had not been canceled. When I put the redneck ram air on the 88, it would create just enough pressure that cruise would loose pressure after about 5 miles if the speed was over 65. That's why I added the vacuum pump to that car. Had zero issues after that.

                            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                            rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
                            Originally posted by gadget73
                            ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
                            Originally posted by dmccaig
                            Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                              Originally posted by sly View Post
                              With the lopo, getting up the hill on a grade would cause you to need to open the throttle enough that if the grade lasted long enough (2-5 miles), the vacuum would degrade enough for the servo to let go since it's vacuum assisted. When you leveled out and throttle closed back up, it would engage again if the cruise had not been canceled. When I put the redneck ram air on the 88, it would create just enough pressure that cruise would loose pressure after about 5 miles if the speed was over 65. That's why I added the vacuum pump to that car. Had zero issues after that.
                              Ah, everything is bigger in America, including hills lol
                              But how does the smog pump create vacuum? As far as I've seen it's just a low-ish pressure air pump. Or does the TAD/TAB solenoids magically make vacuum?
                              1985 Mercury Grand Marquis LS, "Maisa"
                              1995 Chevrolet Caprice Classic STW, "Sally"

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                                Originally posted by Arquemann View Post
                                Ah, everything is bigger in America, including hills lol
                                But how does the smog pump create vacuum? As far as I've seen it's just a low-ish pressure air pump. Or does the TAD/TAB solenoids magically make vacuum?
                                I imagine it's the intake side of the pump that is pulling the vacuum.
                                2002 Mercury Grand Marquis LSE, Sylvania Zevo LED Headlights, MSD Blaster Coils, K&N Cold Air Intake, Dual Exhaust, 3.27's - Dally Driver

                                1983 Lincoln Continental Mark VI, Smog Delete - Summer Cruiser


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