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    This was back before MAACO. I'll have to find some newer pics.

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ID:	56645 Here was after MAACO.

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    Sharp looking. Any history on your car like where it was in service?
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    The CV looks sharp. Black and red, my favorite colors. Was it a patrol car or a Fire Chiefs car ? With fire cars it was common to have red interior.
    Maaco used to do nice jobs on the mid range and above jobs. Single stage or base/clear ? If the shop foreman would let me in the shop, I would point out my car and give the painter and tape man a tip . A few $$ went a long way.
    Show more pictures of your car when you have time. Since you are in CA, search junkyards for extra parts now. What part of Ca. you are in ? I forgot.
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    Wow, that MAACO job looks really nice!

    Did you strip all the trim and such off before bringing it to them or did you have them do that? I've always been tempted to try them as their prices are reasonable enough.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggie View Post
    Sharp looking. Any history on your car like where it was in service?
    Patterson NJ PD. I first knew because it has a Paterson bumper sticker. Celebrating Paterson 100th anniversary or something. Many years later, I noticed it says so on the original key. If you squinted into the sun just the right way (before the MAACO with the sandblasted) paint job, you could see "Police" on the doors plus "Serve and Protect" and "Command Car" on some of the quarters. Carfax confirmed it was originally sold in Paterson NJ. I also found many years later, a very discolored brittle part of a piece of paper from Paterson PD regarding a home invasion report or something. It was stuck down in the cowl below the windshield wipers. Miracle it survived as long as it did with rain and snow getting in there. Although the car color was always listed as black, when I watch X-files or see photos of the current color scheme for Paterson PD, looks like their cars are usually white. So confused by that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mainemantom View Post
    The CV looks sharp. Black and red, my favorite colors. Was it a patrol car or a Fire Chiefs car ? With fire cars it was common to have red interior.
    Maaco used to do nice jobs on the mid range and above jobs. Single stage or base/clear ? If the shop foreman would let me in the shop, I would point out my car and give the painter and tape man a tip . A few $$ went a long way.
    Show more pictures of your car when you have time. Since you are in CA, search junkyards for extra parts now. What part of Ca. you are in ? I forgot.
    Yeah, I got the maroon burgendy color. Odd choice I guess. I had a guy at the Ripon police car show try to tell me that I put a custom interior in there. I have not. He was kind of a jerk. Jealous or something. He had a 87 or older or something. I freguent the Pick N pulls a lot but as my skill and knowledge seem to grow greater, unfortunately, the boxes become more and more infrequent at the yards.

    Quote Originally Posted by slack View Post
    Wow, that MAACO job looks really nice!

    Did you strip all the trim and such off before bringing it to them or did you have them do that? I've always been tempted to try them as their prices are reasonable enough.
    Unfortunately, no I did not strip the trim. So there was some overspray in some places. But most major areas where there was overspray, the chrome was crap anyways. And some I replaced later with NOS so it didn't matter. They did spray over the calibration sticker, etc. which sucked.

    MAACO job has some issues from age now here and there but overall really good. However, there was a hit and run a few years back when I used to park the car out on the street. A smudge going down one side from front to back. So I have that still to take care of.

    I'll have to post some pics when I get a chance.
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    Beautiful! Rare to see a CV in Jersey. I've only seen 2 other Crown Vics; otherwise it's been a handful of box Grand Marquis and several box Town Cars. Who had that Grand Marquis in the background?

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    Nice ride! Did you purchase it in NJ or it found its way to you in Cali?
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    Chances are your car didn't see beat patrol use. Very likely it was ordered black with red interior for one of the Department high ups. Explains "command car" Try to find the build sheet, possibly under the front seats. Could be somewhere else too. Preserve it as it will have all the details how it was ordered. That Ripon show usually is very good. In the past, participants were offered a tour of the CHP museum. They have a collection of the past patrol cars. One suggestion is to keep the spot light inop. (like cut the wire on the outside so it is obvious.) If/when you get pulled over because " Someone reported you were shining the spot light in their eyes" It can be proven instantly it did not happen. Be aware that in CA. LEs look carefully at the spotlight. If they don't see a clear bulb, there will be extreme trouble ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by packman View Post
    Who had that Grand Marquis in the background?
    That's my brother's car. He moved back to the Midwest. Someone rear ended him a few years ago at a traffic light so he doesn't drive it as much anymore. He is trying to get it fixed. Although the damage could be repaired and back on the road, the insurance company wanted to total it and salvage title the car due to age. My brother refused, didn't take any money, cancelled the claim and kept the clear title but is fixing up the car on his own dime.

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    Nice ride! Did you purchase it in NJ or it found its way to you in Cali?
    No. The car was owned by a college kid in Kentucky when he was selling it on ebay back in 2004 I think. Had to pick it up and drive it. The cats rusted off so maybe they didn't want to mess with that. Only thing I had to replace was the cats, mufflers, and pipes. College kids are usually broke, or at least I was back in those days. I also think that since they didn't know how to properly start a cold carbed car, they thought something was wrong with it. Started just fine for me but then I grew up when carbed cars were still around and my first car still had a carb.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mainemantom View Post
    Chances are your car didn't see beat patrol use. Very likely it was ordered black with red interior for one of the Department high ups. Explains "command car" Try to find the build sheet, possibly under the front seats. Could be somewhere else too. Preserve it as it will have all the details how it was ordered. That Ripon show usually is very good. In the past, participants were offered a tour of the CHP museum. They have a collection of the past patrol cars. One suggestion is to keep the spot light inop. (like cut the wire on the outside so it is obvious.) If/when you get pulled over because " Someone reported you were shining the spot light in their eyes" It can be proven instantly it did not happen. Be aware that in CA. LEs look carefully at the spotlight. If they don't see a clear bulb, there will be extreme trouble ahead.
    Yeah, probably didn't get as much abuse. Mileage on the car was not so bad. And it has carpet instead of rubber. But the carpet needs replaced. I bought a ACC carpet to put in it. I haven't looked for the build sheet. But I'm sure I'll find it when I replace the carpet. I no longer drive the car much because I have the Marauder but I think due to the car's age and my mature age (gray hear at least makes me look mature, lol), they have so far never messed with me in regards to the spot light even when I have been pulled over for simple things like headlight burnt out, etc. I think a lot of them are too young to remember what an old cop car looks like. I had one guy ask me if the light was for hunting, lol. But I'll certainly look into that.

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    Nice. Everything up until we got my Mom's '86 CV was carb'd. My '82 C20 still sports a 2bbl and fires up right away no matter how long it sits (also has well over 500k).

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    Some more pics. I'll provide some more pics later, like the interior. Also, I have a dashcap/overlay on but I'll take it off for more pics of the actual dash. It's a good dash now from pick n pull since the original dash was cracked to high heaven.
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    Almost forgot. Had one more quick pic. Tripminder was a delete on this car. Also, steering wheel no cruise control and no leather wrap. And of course, no power antennea. Replaced dirty old steering wheel with a NOS one from ebay. Keeping it original non-leather wrap. Some more "cabernet red" interior pics to come.
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    Very nice looking. Clock delete plate too!
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    My car doesn't have a center armrest in the back seat. And the rear deck was all torn up from the previous owner putting in rear speakers when apparently my car was not equiped. I still use the speakers but found a package tray at Pick n Pull to give it a stock look. Also my headliner appears to sag a bit in the back of the car.
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    both front seats are manual. no pouches in the back of the seats, but I got a good set at pick n pull that I may put on someday.
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    OK, some more pictures. I bought some NOS trim for the bottom of the trunk (in pic) but I noticed there are differences for 90/91 so I found a original 88 from pick n pull that was good after a good cleaning. And here is view to the front. The original windshield was surprisingly uncracked when I first got the car. But it did eventuallycrack and I've replaced several times. Now with an original Carlite glass. The radio bezel, etc. all had holes drilled in them so I replaced them from the pick n pull. And scored a good dash board from pick n pull at some point. I try religiously to take care of up seeing how the original was so cracked especially the speaker holes. Also don't know what this "choke" looking pull thing is, but the toggle switch is the horn. The horn button on the steering wheel doesn't work. There are plugs for holes on the roof and on on the driver rear quarter panel. Not sure what kind of antennea I can get for that one. But on the rear passenger side quarter panel, I bought a small antennea from Ripon for that. Also got some holes in the bumper that I don't know what they are for. Lights or push bumper? I'll probably see if I can find some of the before Maaco pics with some of the light angle that shows some of the prior graphics.
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    And here is the Patterson NJ Bicenntenial sticker. You can't make much out of it now. I have a NOS bumper I was going to put on but would be great to find a old unused bumper sticker to replace it. But oh well.
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    Looks like your are making it look great again.

    Interesting that they ordered the cassette radio.
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    Yes, there was a stock cassette radio in it when I got the car. Looks identical to the one I had in my totaled blue 1988 Crown Vic. I did have to replace that radio a few times though with another stock until from pick n pull when the cassette part would stop working or tuner would go bad etc. I kind of like keeping the stock look on the radio.

    No amplifier or anything like that so obviously this was not a "premium sound" car, lol.

    I think the only speakers the car had was under the dash. The wiring was there for the side doors which the previous owner used to put speakers there. But the rear speakers, the previous owner had run wires under the carpet to their aftermarket speakers back there. Maybe that is why part of the carpet is torn in the rear. I bought a ACC carpet which I want to install.

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