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    Box windshield replacement

    Anyone try replacing box windshield themselves? It appears that mine is attached with butyl and not urethane like all modern cars. If I let the car sit out in the sun and then take a heat gun around the windshield, would I be able to push it out or doea it still need to be cut out?

    #2
    Has to be cut out. I have done a few many years ago. It is SO much easier to have a glass shop do the job. It is a two man job. Getting it out can be a pain. There is what is known as a release agent which is sprayed around the seal to help loosen it up. Mixed results.
    Putting in the new usually goes ok. Many shops do not take all of the old seal out. All it takes is to hit the glass the wrong way, then crack. Better to have a company break it than yourself. Shop around for pricing. Labor prices differ. If you can get the Carlite glass,get it.

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      #3
      Mine kinda fell out ages ago. The top and side adhesives gave way. It was still secured really well down near the cowl. Tough to reach that area with out special tools...goes deep and was thick.

      I had the glass company come and just remove it and re-adhere it. I removed all trim around window (interior and exterior) and dash pad so they count not mess anything up on me. Luckily everything went back okay on the inside and outside.
      ~David~

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      Originally posted by ootdega
      My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

      Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
      But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

      Originally posted by gadget73
      my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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        #4
        Windshield in my '89 CV was pretty easy to cut out with the right tool. Cleaned up the gasket area, applied the etching chemical to both sides, laid a bead of sealer, and installed the glass. I needed an extra set of hands to install the glass.

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          #5
          I cut one out once using piano wire. It was not a thrilling experience but it worked.
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            #6
            Are you replacing your windshield or just re-sealing it? If replacing, who cares if you crack the old one. I have cut several windshields out over the years with no problem. 2-man job with piano wire. 2-man job to install too. Most replacement glass is shaded at the top. Also the bottom shading is different 89 down compared to 90-91. Most replacement windshields have the 90-91 shading at the bottom. WagonMan
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              #7
              I successfully removed a junkyard '90 windshield to install in my wagon, and it was my first time doing windshield work. It is doable. I used a combination of the little sideways knife tool and piano wire, with soapy (dish soap) water to lubricate the area being worked on. The piano wire option is mandatory around the bottom because there is no tool that can reach to the required spot and apply the required type, direction and amount of force.

              My only useful input about installing windshields (if using urethane) is to use more urethane than seems to be appropriate, to stack up a very tall bead. It's easier to squish the glass down more than the impossible task of lifting it back out if you set it in too deep.

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                #8
                I too removed and resealed my windshield. it separated really easily with the butyl. removing one with modern eurathane is harder..

                I recently had to have the glass i re-sealed replaced. It cost me $300 parts and labor. They said new windshields for them have become very rare, they had 1 in 1 of their warehouses...i got lucky.
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                  #9
                  Seems to be that way for any vehicle over 10 years old that's not a pickup or sports car. Even the glass for my 03 Expedition only had "one in the area". It seems they only keep a few in stock for any given vehicle. Many are special order now. Found this out from the guy who installed my windshield.

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                  Originally posted by gadget73
                  ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
                  Originally posted by dmccaig
                  Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                    #10
                    Tried pulling one out of a car at the wreckers a few days ago. Turns out it's been replaced and urethaned into place. Not sure what urethane they used back in the day but it was solid as a rock. Couldn't cut it out. I did manage to successfully remove one out of a box Town Car that still had butyl. Came out very easily. On another note if anyone is curious Town Car windshield will not fit a Vic/Marq. The roof is wider at the top on the Lincoln.

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                      #11
                      I bought a heated Insta-clear windshield at a junkyard years ago. The yard said I couldn't remove it myself, they would have it taken out by a glass shop. Price was $150. When I went to pick it up, the idiots cut the wires off flush to the windshield. I told them the windshield is ruined. They said I owed them $50 for the removal. I said O.K., but I'm taking the windshield for the $50. They said O.K. I took the windshield home and I soldered the wires from my broken Insta-clear windshield to the new one. It is still in my car today and works fine. WagonMan
                      89 Colony Park
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                        #12
                        Once removed and replaced a windshield for a '64 Pontiac Bonneville just using a carpet knife. Certainly can't do that shit anymore!
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by WagonMan View Post
                          I bought a heated Insta-clear windshield at a junkyard years ago. The yard said I couldn't remove it myself, they would have it taken out by a glass shop. Price was $150. When I went to pick it up, the idiots cut the wires off flush to the windshield. I told them the windshield is ruined. They said I owed them $50 for the removal. I said O.K., but I'm taking the windshield for the $50. They said O.K. I took the windshield home and I soldered the wires from my broken Insta-clear windshield to the new one. It is still in my car today and works fine. WagonMan
                          Good deal. Wonder if they didnt even know about the leads at first then mangled them through removal and cut them flush to try and hide it from you. Too bad you the buyer knew what you were purchasing.
                          ~David~

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                          My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                          Originally posted by ootdega
                          My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                          Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                          But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                          Originally posted by gadget73
                          my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                            #14
                            Yea before glue you just carefully pushed them out with your feet.
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