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    Cooling system question

    Yesterday I replaced the radiator in the LSE. It started leaking pretty good on the way home from work one night about two weeks ago, check engine light and temp light came on right as I got into my driveway so it did overheat. I got everything hooked back up, added coolant/distilled water, let it run until it was warm and the thermostat opened, then topped it up. I went to take it for a drive to check things out, about a mile from home the temp gauge dropped all the way, it's also not building any pressure in the system. No leaks that I can detect, not sure exactly what is going on here. I'm thinking the thermostat may be stuck open from getting too hot, but I'm not sure that would cause the lack of pressure in the system.
    2002 Mercury Grand Marquis LSE, Sylvania Zevo LED Headlights, MSD Blaster Coils, K&N Cold Air Intake, Dual Exhaust, 3.27's - Dally Driver

    1983 Lincoln Continental Mark VI, Smog Delete - Summer Cruiser


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    #2
    The old thermostat was in fact stuck wide open. I’m addressing that now. Temp gauge is working so far. I’m waiting on the new thermostat to open now.

    Edit: Temp gauge is working, still not building pressure.
    Last edited by mercurygm88; 05-24-2022, 02:22 PM.
    2002 Mercury Grand Marquis LSE, Sylvania Zevo LED Headlights, MSD Blaster Coils, K&N Cold Air Intake, Dual Exhaust, 3.27's - Dally Driver

    1983 Lincoln Continental Mark VI, Smog Delete - Summer Cruiser


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      #3
      How are you determining that it is not building pressure?

      Pressure is the natural result of the coolant expanding from heat within a sealed system; it isn't (for example) caused by the pump pumping or anything like that. Therefore, a lack of pressure is the result of it not getting hot enough to expand enough for you to notice, or alternatively, the pressure is all concentrated in an air pocket that you haven't successfully bled out of the system somewhere (or there is a leak so severe you would definitely be noticing it).

      That is to say, a system that is 100% filled with liquid that tries to expand is going to force its way into the overflow/expansion tank. A system that has liquid and air is going to squish the air before the coolant needs to force its way into the overflow/expansion tank. If it's getting up to operating temperature, I'd figure it would do a little of both.

      The "gotcha" is that there are non- (or maybe less?) expanding coolant products on the market, and those will probably not pressurize much or at all. But you would know if you were using one of those products as they're costly specialty fluids that you aren't just buying as normal coolant.
      Last edited by kishy; 05-24-2022, 02:50 PM.

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        #4
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          #5
          Check the oil just in case. If there's milk, bad day but fixable. No milk, you didn't overheat too bad and good day will be had.

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          ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
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            #6
            Bad radiator cap will not let it build pressure. WagonMan
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              #7
              I’m thinking it’s the cap on the expansion tank even though it’s only two months old. I just took it off after driving 20 miles and there was no pressure built up. I haven’t lost any coolant at all as far as I can tell, no detectable leaks. I’m just running the cheap store brand conventional green coolant, no coolant in the oil.
              2002 Mercury Grand Marquis LSE, Sylvania Zevo LED Headlights, MSD Blaster Coils, K&N Cold Air Intake, Dual Exhaust, 3.27's - Dally Driver

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                #8
                +1 bad cap if you have temperature in the coolant.

                Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
                Originally posted by gadget73
                ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
                Originally posted by dmccaig
                Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                  #9
                  Most likely tank cap or the overflow hose leaks air or the overflow tank itself has a crack. cracked tank took me some time to find a long time ago.

                  You don't happen to have or be able to borrow, from a friend or an AZ, a coolant pressure checker?
                  03 Marauder DPB, HS, 6disk, Organizer Mods> LED's in & Out, M&Z rear control arms, Oil deflector, U-Haul Trans Pan, Blue Fuzzy Dice
                  02 SL500 Silver Arrow
                  08 TC Signature Limited, HID's Mods>235/55-17 Z rated BFG G-Force Comp-2 A/S Plus, Addco 1" rear Sway, Posi Carrier, Compustar Remote Start, floor liners, trunk organizer, Two part Sun Visors, B&M Trans drain Plug, Winter=05 Mustang GT rims, Nokian Hakkapeliitta R-2 235/55-17
                  12 Escape Limited V6 AWD, 225/65R17 Vredestein Quatrac Pro, Winter 235/70-16 Conti Viking Contact7 Mods>Beamtech LED headlight bulbs, Husky floor liners

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                    #10
                    I replaced the cap, everything seems good now.
                    2002 Mercury Grand Marquis LSE, Sylvania Zevo LED Headlights, MSD Blaster Coils, K&N Cold Air Intake, Dual Exhaust, 3.27's - Dally Driver

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