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    What Am I looking At?

    Latest arrival at the local Picky Pull in Calgary and a friend did a pre-scout for me.
    Sent me these two pics; what are we looking at? In all my years I have never seen anything like it.

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    #2
    Looks like timed vacuum control solenoids to me for an earlier car. Is it a 1983 car by chance?


    My Cars:
    -1964 Comet 202 (116K Miles) - Long Term Project
    -1986 Dodge D-150 Royale SE (112K Miles) - Slowly Getting Put Back Together
    -1987 Grand Marquis Colony Park LS (325K Miles) - April 2017 + September 2019 POTM Winner
    -1997 Grand Marquis LS (240K Miles) - The Daily Workhorse & March 2015 + January 2019 POTM Winner

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      #3
      Definitely not factory, that's for sure.
      1985 LTD Crown Victoria - SOLD
      1988 Town Car Signature - Current Party Barge

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        #4
        It's an 85 GM. Missing the motor and is pretty hammered but has the turbine center caps floating around the interior.

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          #5
          I've seen these before on some sorta Ford something. Don't recall what. I feel like that's a 351 car and that's probably got a lot to do with it.

          Current driver: Ranger
          Panthers: 83 GM 2dr | 84 TC | 85 CS
          | 88 TC | 91 GM
          Not Panthers: 85 Ranger | Ranger trailer | 91 Acclaim | 05 Focus
          Gone: 97 CV | 83 TC | 04 Focus | 86 GM
          | Junkyards

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            #6
            My '85 MGM has the MAP sensor placed where that mystery apparatus in on your pic. Weirdly enough it seems to have a different bracket. Also the diagnostic port is on the pass. side of the engine bay for some reason.

            EDIT: seems to be a 351-thing, something vacuum related, since there's no MAP in carb'd 351's. It is actually a factory thing.
            Last edited by Arquemann; 07-28-2022, 09:18 AM.
            1985 Mercury Grand Marquis LS, "Maisa"
            1995 Chevrolet Caprice Classic STW, "Sally"

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              #7
              Pretty sure those are vacuum switches used to trigger emissions stuff like the secondary air injection diverter and bypass valves, etc.


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                #8
                Confirmed, 351 thing.

                This is a Canadian propane 1990 P72 photographed in 2013:



                Current driver: Ranger
                Panthers: 83 GM 2dr | 84 TC | 85 CS
                | 88 TC | 91 GM
                Not Panthers: 85 Ranger | Ranger trailer | 91 Acclaim | 05 Focus
                Gone: 97 CV | 83 TC | 04 Focus | 86 GM
                | Junkyards

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                  #9
                  What Am I looking At?

                  My 82 had that mess. It was a 302 VV car. Maybe it's a VV thing if you all don't see it on 2150 cars?

                  Not many pics of that car in my files but here's one.


                  Per the EVTM, the three roundish things are zoned vacuum switches. Attached to them are thermactor air diverted and bypass solenoids.

                  The red connector similar to the EEC-IV connector is the diagnostic port for the EEC-II. It's the same as the later one, just no separate connector. It didn't do anything on my car. Tried to run diagnosis with a code scanner on it but didn't get a response from it.

                  One more photo while I am digging through photos: that car had a factory thick radiator.



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                  Last edited by Tiggie; 07-28-2022, 10:07 PM.
                  1990 Country Squire - weekend cruiser, next project
                  1988 Crown Vic LTD Wagon - waiting in the wings

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Tiggie View Post
                    My 82 had that mess. It was a 302 VV car. Maybe it's a VV thing if you all don't see it on 2150 cars?
                    Factory Canadian 2150 setup on my 83 302 does not have it.

                    Seems the commonality is the VV, yes, since that '90 pictured would be some form of the VV. Not sure exactly what differs when they take propane, but I think it's still the VV at its heart.

                    An 85 302 Ford or Mercury Panther would be a 2150 (or maybe that one Holley) in Canada, and fundamentally the same as my 83, so that particular 85 OP is asking about probably was 351 in order to have the carb that brings with it those vacuum switches.
                    Last edited by kishy; 07-28-2022, 10:12 PM.

                    Current driver: Ranger
                    Panthers: 83 GM 2dr | 84 TC | 85 CS
                    | 88 TC | 91 GM
                    Not Panthers: 85 Ranger | Ranger trailer | 91 Acclaim | 05 Focus
                    Gone: 97 CV | 83 TC | 04 Focus | 86 GM
                    | Junkyards

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                      #11
                      My 79-85 LTD/MGMs with the 302/351 with the VV had that junk. It was used on Ca. smog vehicles for sure. Never adjust those knobs.

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                        #12
                        Well thats a lot of questions answered. I just wish the data plate was visible on the door. Completely faded away.
                        Since that thing showed up I am looking at what else I can scrounge. Has dual exhaust so I might grab that. And are box bumpers interchangeable from sedan to wagon? Specifically the mounting plate (for lack of a better word).
                        Mine are rusty and the only thing holding the bumper from falling off is the trailer hitch.

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                          #13
                          I think it's part 11 in this diagram.

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                            #14
                            Well upon further review it looks like that is a wagon specific part so the question is bumper interchange sedan to wagon.
                            Little more research needed.
                            Attached Files
                            Last edited by ianmcc; 07-29-2022, 09:52 AM.

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                              #15
                              You can swap bumpers, but the rear would at least look weird because the wagon rear bumper is shaped different along the top (step to get in the rear). Front is the same, although some wagons may have an aluminum front bumper if I'm not mistaken.
                              Vic

                              ~ 1989 MGM LS Colony Park - Large Marge
                              ~ 1998 MGM LS - new DD
                              ~ 1991 MGM LS "The Scab"
                              ~ 1991 MGM GS "The Ice Car"

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