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    Turbonator/Tornado fuel saver

    I've heard that these things can save you some gas...
    anyone got any opinions on these things?
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    1989 Ford Crown Victoria
    99K

    #2
    I hear they are worthless, but who knows, mang...
    1983 Grand Marquis 2Dr Sedan "Mercules"
    Tremec TKO conversion, hydraulic clutch, HURST equipped!

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      #3
      Popular mechanics did a test of several of these "fuel saving" devices. most of them did nothing, a few of them actually hurt performance. Ill try to dig up the issue and post the results
      http://secondhandracing.com/Home.aspx
      http://secondhandradio.com/

      R.I.P. Jason P Harrill 6-12-06

      http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthread.php?t=5634

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        #4
        I think they are a little over priced for having no garunteed mileage increase.
        although, they do have the 30-day money back garuntee.
        but that's not enough!
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        1989 Ford Crown Victoria
        99K

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          #5
          I'd skip it
          Pebbles-1968 Ford F250
          Pile of Junk! An Electronics Project Site (To get wet by)<---Clicky! NEW STUFF!!!!

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            #6
            Found the September 2005 issue of Popular mechanics.

            The devices were tested on 4 full size trucks... We strapped the trucks down to a paif of chassis dynamometers and ran them dry of gasoline. then we added a measured quanity of gas, and ran four dyno pulls to determine horsepower and torque. Next, we accelerated to a corrected 70 mph, set the cruise controlto keep the speeds consistent and ran the trucks dry again. This gave us a base line of each truck's unmodified power and fuel consumption.
            results

            Miracle magnets.
            Fuel Saver, Fuel OptiMiser
            >JC Whitney, $22;heartlandamerica.com, $20
            >THEY CLAIM: It magnetically rearranges gasoline molecules for better combustion.
            > BOTTOM LINE: Weird science, but at least it can't hurt.

            The Dyno says. As we suspected, neither device had any significant effect on performance or economy.

            Vortex Generators.

            Intake Twister
            >ebay, $20
            >THEY CLAIM: "Increase your gas mileage buy [sic] 5-10 mpg and increase your hp by up to +10 hp." "Spreads the gas out to get a full combustion."
            >BOTTOM LINE: Doesn't work and could fail and damage expensive parts.

            TornadoFuelSaver
            >TornadoFuelSaver.com, $70
            >THEY CLAIM: ">>> an increase in gas mileage-up to 28%!!!" "Dynamometer [sic] testing demonstrates an increase of 4-13 horsepower."
            >BOTTOM LINE: Normally, we want less turbulance in the intake, not more.

            The dyno says:Both devices reduced peak horsepower by more than 10 percent. The Intake Twister increased fuel consumption by about 20 percent; the TornadoFuelSaver provided no significant change.
            there are 3 other devices but they are not related in design to the devices in question and i dont feel like typing it out.
            http://secondhandracing.com/Home.aspx
            http://secondhandradio.com/

            R.I.P. Jason P Harrill 6-12-06

            http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/showthread.php?t=5634

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              #7
              I know it's not our area of expertise, but editor Dave Coleman from Sport Compact Car has an answer for you. Before judgement is passed on me, let me explain. I used to have an 87 Supra Turbo. From approximately 190 cubic inches that motor generated 225 horsepower and 255 ft. lbs of torque. Anyway, this guy knows his shit, he just doesn't like prehistoric technology.

              Take two 2 liter soda bottles, put some water in one and tape them together. When flipped upside down, the water gurgles and stuggles to get into the lower bottle because the air is trying to get into the upper bottle at the same time. But wait, if you make it act like a tornado then presto!! the water and air flow much smoother and faster. That's great. Good point, except our engines don't work like soda bottles. The tornado action allows the water to flow along the sides of the bottle, while the air flows in the middle. Our engines just want to suck in as much air as possible. If you put anything in the way of that airflow, including stainless steel fins, then they have to work harder to suck, and essentially "suck" more. lol. Wait a minute, I'm assuming you have SEFI, if you have a carb or "gasp" CFI, then it may help to get the air fuel mixture working, but it's still a detriment to airflow.

              Domestics are a new world for me, but I've got to play the hand I'm dealt. The engines still work the same, so I may be of some help. I just want to put in a Man o War 351 and be done with it. Maybe build up the AOD when it breaks.....

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                #8
                Yeah, like Duece said

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                  #9
                  Nice GM!!!


                  '90 Mercury Grand Marquis GS
                  Baseline 5.0L numbers totally stock, 123 rwhp, 239 rwtq
                  5.4L swap coming soon.

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                    #10
                    As everyone else has said, worthless. Simple upgrade would be free flowing mufflers (not neccessarily flowmasters) Just look for one that has a nice strait flow design.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by N A
                      Nice GM!!!
                      Agreed. Always liked the way your car looks! And what is the story behind "MAGNA 302", I find it to be a cool gimmick
                      1983 Grand Marquis 2Dr Sedan "Mercules"
                      Tremec TKO conversion, hydraulic clutch, HURST equipped!

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Fst Mrc
                        Wait a minute, I'm assuming you have SEFI, if you have a carb or "gasp" CFI, then it may help to get the air fuel mixture working, but it's still a detriment to airflow.
                        Hey, my CFI works just fine, thanks very much.... 20 city 25 highway...
                        2000 Grand Marquis LS
                        2000 F150 XLT 6 inches of lift.
                        1987 Bill Blass Mark VII - Sold
                        1985 Mercury Grand Marquis Colony Park- SOLD. to a little old lady
                        Mercury Owners Group member
                        Save The Whales, Restore an Old Station Wagon!!

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                          #13
                          how do you get 25mpg out of a cfi and wats the most we can get out of 4bbl carbs
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                          1986 Crown Victoria 302 Cold Air,Mac Shorty headers, Full Dual Exhaust with Super Forty Flows, Wagon Suspension with a Full Sound System Replacement 1/4 time 17.486 @ 77.43mph

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                            #14
                            Not sure, but I assume it has to do with the 38000 original miles. And good plugs, wires and all that stuffs. 3.08 gears and a light foot..
                            2000 Grand Marquis LS
                            2000 F150 XLT 6 inches of lift.
                            1987 Bill Blass Mark VII - Sold
                            1985 Mercury Grand Marquis Colony Park- SOLD. to a little old lady
                            Mercury Owners Group member
                            Save The Whales, Restore an Old Station Wagon!!

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                              #15
                              Carb will pretty much never make it to the 20s. Normal driving will be below 15, and Lead Foot Larry will bring it down into the single digits.

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