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    Thats what it shows for 82-85. I think its the same part on carb and CFI cars. SEFI stuff uses a different part which is curiously not actually listed for unknown reasons. Basically the C shaped bit where it goes over the throttle cable is rotated 90 degrees because of the way the cables sit relative to one another and the stud for the throttle body.
    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

    Originally posted by phayzer5
    I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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      Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
      not sure of a source but it looks like the connector block thing is E25Y-9C876-A and the clip is E1FZ-9D726-B

      dump valve is easiest to check from the engine bay. If you look at the side of the cruise servo you'll see a Y shaped fitting on it. One hose goes from the back to the front side of the servo, the other vanishes someplace else. That "someplace else" is the dump valve. Unhook the hose and see if it holds vacuum. If it does its good. If not, make sure its pushed far enough into the bracket that the button is pushed in by the brake pedal.
      One thing I found interesting reading up on the dump valve in the shop manual is its placement in relation to the adapter it hits on the brake pedal. If positioned to close under temperature changes the brake lights may actually turn on as the valve is pushing the pedal away. I don't buy it, but it was worth mentioning in the manual so who the hell knows.
      ~David~

      My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
      My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

      Originally posted by ootdega
      My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

      Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
      But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

      Originally posted by gadget73
      my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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        yeah there is some small gap between the face of the valve and the back of the pedal specified. I forget what it is, probably like 2 matchbooks thick or something.
        86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
        5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

        91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

        1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

        Originally posted by phayzer5
        I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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          The dump valve holds vacuum. I only gave it about 5 InHg since I don't want to break anything.
          Atleast that's good.
          1985 Mercury Grand Marquis LS, "Maisa"
          1995 Chevrolet Caprice Classic STW, "Sally"

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            Is there anything in literature about the cruise control adjustment?
            I was thinking about using zipties or strong tape to attach the shafts together, with maybe a rubber piece inbetween so the cruise shaft won't crack against the metal throttle shaft and the angle wouldn't be as sharp.
            1985 Mercury Grand Marquis LS, "Maisa"
            1995 Chevrolet Caprice Classic STW, "Sally"

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              yes, but basically you set the cruise cable for no slack. Too tight and it will hold the throttle open at idle, too loose and it picks up speed when you set it.

              I don't see tape or zip ties holding that as solidly as it needs to be held for proper functionality.
              86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
              5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

              91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

              1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

              Originally posted by phayzer5
              I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                Here's how I attached the cruise shaft, just trying it out.
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                One ziptie wouldn't really be tight enough so the shaft wouldn't slip, but another one behind it made it pretty sturdy. Only thing I'm considering is the angle of the cable, especially with more open throttle. The cable might bind up there.
                I'll have to attach the plug to the servo tomorrow and take it for a spin. Just "ON" and "SET" to activate, right?

                AC clutch and rad hose are here most likely tomorrow.
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                1985 Mercury Grand Marquis LS, "Maisa"
                1995 Chevrolet Caprice Classic STW, "Sally"

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                  Yes. though I have a habit of on set then on again though it actually does nothing after you hit set as it is the final command.

                  Be above 35 mph or whatever that is in Finnish.
                  ~David~

                  My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                  My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                  Originally posted by ootdega
                  My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                  Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                  But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                  Originally posted by gadget73
                  my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                    The cruise works mint!
                    35mph is 56 km/h and a pretty usual speed limit is 60km/h so it's juuust fine.
                    I might revise the attachment method, but it works.

                    On the test drive the car decided to randomly shut off approaching an intersection (cruise wasn't on at all). I cranked and cranked and it wouldn't fire back up. Waited about 15 seconds or so and it fired pretty much as usual.
                    1985 Mercury Grand Marquis LS, "Maisa"
                    1995 Chevrolet Caprice Classic STW, "Sally"

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                      that kind of dying is typically the ignition module.

                      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                      rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
                      Originally posted by gadget73
                      ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
                      Originally posted by dmccaig
                      Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                        Drove around some more today, didn't shut off. Maybe that was just a random occurrence. Last time I had the hood open in the rain for a while when plugging in the cruise servo, and I drove in the rain, if that makes any difference.
                        It has rained a lot in the last few days, I can confidently say that the trunk doesn't anymore where I sealed it (three times)! Except now I noticed a leak from under the taillight holes, and it's crusty.

                        The AC clutch and rad hose have been stuck in the Fedex warehouse since wednesday, when I paid the duties. Maybe they'll get going tomorrow, since it's monday.

                        I've been pondering on the direction I want to take this car...
                        The more I look at photos on the interweb, the less difference I see between tire sizes.
                        I'd like an old-school look with thick meats and 15's. Then again, bigger wheels don't look that big on these boxes.

                        I've got these 14" Chrome reverses.
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                        With the 14's, it would definitely need some lowering springs 2-4 inches maybe. Also 14" tires are hard to find nowadays and are kinda expensive.
                        I'd like to go with ~245 width, as the rims are wider than stock.
                        How much do lowering springs affect the ride? I'd like a little less body roll...
                        I'm not looking for a "handling" car but some corners frighten me and make passenger pale.

                        15's would keep that classic old-school look and tire selection is okay. American racing outlaws, slot mags, centerline auto drags..

                        Or I could go with some cool wheels in 17's or 18's. Kinda indifferent about torq thrusts.
                        This pic of knucklehead's Vic was nice, those are 18's right? They don't even look that big.
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                        Bigger wheels would offer more and cheaper tire options and would affect the handling in a somewhat positive way.
                        Only con I can think of is tire clearance, I remember knucklehead mentioning some rub on his setup.

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                        1985 Mercury Grand Marquis LS, "Maisa"
                        1995 Chevrolet Caprice Classic STW, "Sally"

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                          The last three photos are definitely members cars. I liked the wheels on the tan vic ALOT. When he was parting/selling the car out (yes it came to that)I wanted the wheels bad. Then I was ghosted. lol
                          ~David~

                          My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                          My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                          Originally posted by ootdega
                          My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                          Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                          But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                          Originally posted by gadget73
                          my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                            A heavy rear sway bar will flatten out the ride without making it harsh. any sway is better than no sway. If you go too big on the rear you might need to upsize the front so the car is balanced in a slide rather then too much over or understeer.
                            03 Marauder DPB, HS, 6disk, Organizer Mods> LED's in & Out, M&Z rear control arms, Oil deflector, U-Haul Trans Pan, Blue Fuzzy Dice
                            02 SL500 Silver Arrow
                            08 TC Signature Limited, HID's Mods>235/55-17 Z rated BFG G-Force Comp-2 A/S Plus, Addco 1" rear Sway, Posi Carrier, Compustar Remote Start, floor liners, trunk organizer, Two part Sun Visors, B&M Trans drain Plug, Winter=05 Mustang GT rims, Nokian Hakkapeliitta R-2 235/55-17
                            12 Escape Limited V6 AWD, 225/65R17 Vredestein Quatrac Pro, Winter 235/70-16 Conti Viking Contact7 Mods>Beamtech LED headlight bulbs, Husky floor liners

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                              Random shut offs are usually grounding issues or flaky connectors. Had that issue with the TFI module connector on the Mad Marquis (88 MGM) I used to have and fixed it by pushing it full on and putting a zip tie around the clip to force it back into shape flush against the module instead of bowed out a little which allowed the connector to slip off just enough to make the connections not very good.

                              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                              rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
                              Originally posted by gadget73
                              ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
                              Originally posted by dmccaig
                              Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                                Not a fan of small wheels with big tires. Its like driving on marshmallows. These things wallow enough, don't need a big mushy sidewall to make it worse.
                                86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                                5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                                91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                                1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                                Originally posted by phayzer5
                                I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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