How to safely drop 2" ride height - GrandMarq.NET

hemihotrod402 · 11-23-2009, 08:21 PM

I have asked several members on here and the only answers I have gotten are the 1 inch drop speedway springs. I can live with 1 inch, but im really looking for 2 inch. I know hav24wheel dropped his (when he had it) about 3 inches in the front, but i believe he heated the springs (hence safely). I also want to improve cornering ability as well, I have have the PI rear sway bar and I am getting the front. Suggestions?

**mrltd** · 11-23-2009, 10:14 PM

It's too much of a drop to do with just springs-if you want to keep the geometry correct. The upper control arm mounting point has to be moved up.

You can get any heavier spring and cut them to the ride hieght you want.

**CheeseSteakJim** · 11-23-2009, 10:35 PM

If only there were some way to make drop spindles...

**mrltd** · 11-23-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CheeseSteakJim

If only there were some way to make drop spindles...

It's easy, just expensive!

hemihotrod402 · 11-24-2009, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mrltd

It's easy, just expensive!

explain, please?

**mrltd** · 11-24-2009, 01:10 PM

Take the car to a prototyper and have them make a one-off spindle. My guesstimate is about $5K.

The one inch drop and the right wheel/tire combo is very nice. The handling is quite impressive also. Not to mention the ability to go over speedbumps.

hemihotrod402 · 11-24-2009, 01:52 PM

ook then 1 inch it is lol

hav24wheel · 12-03-2009, 01:58 PM

or you could get heavier front springs (1400 pounders)and slowly cut them down tell you get the hight you want..... After I lowered mine i did have it alined and they didnt have any problems getting into spec.. It couldnt possably go any lower in the front than mine was without a spindle swap.. it was just touching the stock bumpstops on the front..

**mrltd** · 12-03-2009, 04:03 PM

Just because they could align it doesn't mean the geometry is correct. Bumpsteer, camber/caster gain all are thrown off when dropped too far.

Also, the more you remove from a spring, the rate increases...

1987cp · 12-03-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mrltd

Take the car to a prototyper and have them make a one-off spindle. My guesstimate is about $5K.

The one inch drop and the right wheel/tire combo is very nice. The handling is quite impressive also. Not to mention the ability to go over speedbumps.

Don't they make drop spindles for B-body Chevrolets? According to that crazy demolition guy who came buy, Chevy spindles will bolt right up to Ford balljoints.

1987cp · 12-03-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by hav24wheel

or you could get heavier front springs (1400 pounders)and slowly cut them down tell you get the hight you want..... After I lowered mine i did have it alined and they didnt have any problems getting into spec.. It couldnt possably go any lower in the front than mine was without a spindle swap.. it was just touching the stock bumpstops on the front..

I'd start with a pair of 700s and go from there if you like things stiff. IIRC one coil off would be about 850 lb/in and would drop the car a pretty good amount. Remember, the spring rate will go UP when you cut it.

hemihotrod402 · 12-10-2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 1987cp

Don't they make drop spindles for B-body Chevrolets? According to that crazy demolition guy who came buy, Chevy spindles will bolt right up to Ford balljoints.

i have seen 2 inch drop spindles for a B Body, but I did not know there was I possibility they could bolt up. Im asking for the speedway springs for christmas, along with beefier shocks, might just play around with the stockers rather than cut up a set of 200 dollar springs and see what results I get.

**mrltd** · 12-10-2009, 08:09 PM

the stockers won't really have the rate to drop it. You will be bottoming out when you hit any bumps.. And the springs should only be 100 bucks a pair.

hemihotrod402 · 12-19-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mrltd

the stockers won't really have the rate to drop it. You will be bottoming out when you hit any bumps.. And the springs should only be 100 bucks a pair.

i wasnt going to dirve with it, I was going to cut them to the desired hieght to see what it looked like. then If I liked it, I would take the speeddways under the knife.

200 bucks= 2 pair 100 bucks each

Pirate · 12-20-2009, 10:18 AM

I'd like to see a thread titled; 'How to unsafely drop the car 2"?'.

Darkmerc · 12-20-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pirate

I'd like to see a thread titled; 'How to unsafely drop the car 2"?'.

Explain to them the right way to do it then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrltd

the stockers won't really have the rate to drop it. You will be bottoming out when you hit any bumps.. And the springs should only be 100 bucks a pair.

does not matter if they are cut or designed to lower, if the shocks are stock comfort tuned, there will be bottoming out.

hemihotrod402 · 12-20-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkmerc

Explain to them the right way to do it then.

dude, its pirate, its what he does. If he didn't, this place would be boring. Everyone finds humor in it.

hemihotrod402 · 12-20-2009, 05:18 PM

and actually, How to unsafely drop a car 2 inches would be pretty fucking funny

johnunit · 12-21-2009, 12:44 PM

ways to unsafely drop a car 2 inches:

Place Geo Metro on roof

Place fat chick in car (not recommended)

Drain air from tires

Remove rims, dismount tires, re-attatch rims.

Mount Geo Metro rims and tires

Apply heat to upper and lower control arms until weight of car bends them upwards

Place fat chick in trunk (preferrable to method 2, will only lower rear end)

hemihotrod402 · 12-21-2009, 02:01 PM

lol at not recomended

11-23-2009, 08:21 PM	#1
hemihotrod402 Anyone can restore a car, but it takes a real man to cut one up. Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fostoria, OH Posts: 1,858	How to safely drop 2" ride height I have asked several members on here and the only answers I have gotten are the 1 inch drop speedway springs. I can live with 1 inch, but im really looking for 2 inch. I know hav24wheel dropped his (when he had it) about 3 inches in the front, but i believe he heated the springs (hence safely). I also want to improve cornering ability as well, I have have the PI rear sway bar and I am getting the front. Suggestions? __________________ Andrew, Certified Car Nut in Training 17x8 Gunmetal Gray Coys C-5 wheels, 235/55-17 Falken Ziex ZE-502 tires. 79 LTD Grille, Taillights, and Turn Signals, Blue LED Dash Lights, PI Rear Sway Bar, 140 MPH Speedometer.

11-23-2009, 10:14 PM	#2
mrltd He who shall not be mentioned. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Westminster, MD Posts: 11,024	It's too much of a drop to do with just springs-if you want to keep the geometry correct. The upper control arm mounting point has to be moved up. You can get any heavier spring and cut them to the ride hieght you want. __________________ former builder/owner of badass panthers.

11-23-2009, 10:35 PM	#3
CheeseSteakJim I love it when a plan comes together Join Date: May 2006 Location: West Granby, CT Posts: 2,760	If only there were some way to make drop spindles... __________________

11-24-2009, 01:10 PM	#6
mrltd He who shall not be mentioned. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Westminster, MD Posts: 11,024	Take the car to a prototyper and have them make a one-off spindle. My guesstimate is about $5K. The one inch drop and the right wheel/tire combo is very nice. The handling is quite impressive also. Not to mention the ability to go over speedbumps. __________________ former builder/owner of badass panthers.

11-24-2009, 01:52 PM	#7
hemihotrod402 Anyone can restore a car, but it takes a real man to cut one up. Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fostoria, OH Posts: 1,858	ook then 1 inch it is lol __________________ Andrew, Certified Car Nut in Training 17x8 Gunmetal Gray Coys C-5 wheels, 235/55-17 Falken Ziex ZE-502 tires. 79 LTD Grille, Taillights, and Turn Signals, Blue LED Dash Lights, PI Rear Sway Bar, 140 MPH Speedometer.

12-03-2009, 01:58 PM	#8
hav24wheel is fixin shit that's not broke Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: ND Posts: 548	or you could get heavier front springs (1400 pounders)and slowly cut them down tell you get the hight you want..... After I lowered mine i did have it alined and they didnt have any problems getting into spec.. It couldnt possably go any lower in the front than mine was without a spindle swap.. it was just touching the stock bumpstops on the front.. __________________ 94 F-150, and a 78/85/92 F150,350 combo sittin on 44s. N yes I sold the Vic. (I'm a uneducated asshole.)

12-03-2009, 04:03 PM	#9
mrltd He who shall not be mentioned. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Westminster, MD Posts: 11,024	Just because they could align it doesn't mean the geometry is correct. Bumpsteer, camber/caster gain all are thrown off when dropped too far. Also, the more you remove from a spring, the rate increases... __________________ former builder/owner of badass panthers.

12-10-2009, 08:09 PM	#13
mrltd He who shall not be mentioned. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Westminster, MD Posts: 11,024	the stockers won't really have the rate to drop it. You will be bottoming out when you hit any bumps.. And the springs should only be 100 bucks a pair. __________________ former builder/owner of badass panthers.

12-20-2009, 10:18 AM	#15
Pirate The Original Happy, Go-Lucky Pirate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Reading Shakespeare Posts: 6,622	I'd like to see a thread titled; 'How to unsafely drop the car 2"?'. __________________ Daily Quote: “Why can't you find one single Democrat member of congress who is running for reelection by bragging on his vote for ObamaCare?” - Neal Boortz

12-20-2009, 05:18 PM	#18
hemihotrod402 Anyone can restore a car, but it takes a real man to cut one up. Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fostoria, OH Posts: 1,858	and actually, How to unsafely drop a car 2 inches would be pretty fucking funny __________________ Andrew, Certified Car Nut in Training 17x8 Gunmetal Gray Coys C-5 wheels, 235/55-17 Falken Ziex ZE-502 tires. 79 LTD Grille, Taillights, and Turn Signals, Blue LED Dash Lights, PI Rear Sway Bar, 140 MPH Speedometer.

12-21-2009, 12:44 PM	#19
johnunit I post a lot... Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,869	ways to unsafely drop a car 2 inches: Place Geo Metro on roof Place fat chick in car (not recommended) Drain air from tires Remove rims, dismount tires, re-attatch rims. Mount Geo Metro rims and tires Apply heat to upper and lower control arms until weight of car bends them upwards Place fat chick in trunk (preferrable to method 2, will only lower rear end) __________________ 85 4 door 351 CV with 15X,XXX KMs- stock and with issues...for now

12-21-2009, 02:01 PM	#20
hemihotrod402 Anyone can restore a car, but it takes a real man to cut one up. Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fostoria, OH Posts: 1,858	lol at not recomended __________________ Andrew, Certified Car Nut in Training 17x8 Gunmetal Gray Coys C-5 wheels, 235/55-17 Falken Ziex ZE-502 tires. 79 LTD Grille, Taillights, and Turn Signals, Blue LED Dash Lights, PI Rear Sway Bar, 140 MPH Speedometer.

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