Intercooled intake idea?

[LtMercDaddy]

had and idea of an intercooled intake... it basically would be set up like a normal turbo charged vehicle with a front mounted intercooler. for clearance issues on an older box body u could use a front bumper with the cutouts in the middle and mount it behind the bumper... plumbing would be aluminum of course. think any benifit would be achived with a non turbo intercooled intake LMAO. could always slap a intercooler juice sprayer on da front for a colder shot.... AGAIN just a bumfuck idea! might be something to try, if no ones done it before....

[Mercmarquis]

I doubt you would see any thing from it, A CAI would be 1000x better. They use intercooler to cool the air coming off of a turbo or supercharger cause if not the air temp would be really hot 150-200+* because of the exhaust heat on a turbo and friction. Plus the intercooler probably wont cool incoming air too much more if its the same temp as the air flowing over the intercooler. Not to mention the restriction from the intercooler alone.

[Mercracer]

No benefit. A restriction on the inlet and you may end up warming the air up as compared to a cold air intake.

[turbo2256b]

Used a air conditioner coil once worked great too cold.

[DuceAnAHalf]

I doubt you would see any thing from it, A CAI would be 1000x better. They use intercooler to cool the air coming off of a turbo or supercharger cause if not the air temp would be really hot 150-200+* because of the exhaust heat on a turbo and friction. Plus the intercooler probably wont cool incoming air too much more if its the same temp as the air flowing over the intercooler. Not to mention the restriction from the intercooler alone.

the heat from a turbo is not fromn the exhaust. Heat is generated when you compress air.

[gadget73]

What he said, and the corrolary is heat is lost when its decompressed, hence propane bottles frosting up with heavy use. Its actually this exact principal that makes air conditioning work. Its high pressure on one side, and low pressure on the other. It expands from a liquid form to a gaseous state via an oriface tube or expansion valve, is blown at high speed through the evaporator and is moved to the condensor to be re-chilled back to a liquid state. Heat is transferred from the cabin air to the evaporator to, well, evaporate the refrigerant and the exact opposite happens at the condensor. Heat from the consensor is exchanged with ambient outside air to bring it back to a liquid.

[jasonh]

Used a air conditioner coil once worked great too cold.

Ford was gonna do that on the new Lightning, was supposed to gain 50hp. I guess that idea is scraped along with the rest of SVT...

[Mercracer]

What he said, and the corrolary is heat is lost when its decompressed, hence propane bottles frosting up with heavy use. Its actually this exact principal that makes air conditioning work. Its high pressure on one side, and low pressure on the other. It expands from a liquid form to a gaseous state via an oriface tube or expansion valve, is blown at high speed through the evaporator and is moved to the condensor to be re-chilled back to a liquid state. Heat is transferred from the cabin air to the evaporator to, well, evaporate the refrigerant and the exact opposite happens at the condensor. Heat from the consensor is exchanged with ambient outside air to bring it back to a liquid.

P1/T1=P2/T2

PV = nRT

[grandpaslincoln]

Turbos push air through the intercooler, then to the intake. If you tried to use it an intercooler on a non turbo or supercharged engine, all it's going to do is cause a restriction in the flow of air.

[AOD]

Turbos push air through the intercooler, then to the intake. If you tried to use it an intercooler on a non turbo or supercharged engine, all it's going to do is cause a restriction in the flow of air.

Yup, well said. With no 'boost' to pressurize the intake system, the intercooler would be fairly useless, other than causing an intake restriction.

It's fun to hear CV/GM'ers talk about turbos...I do it all day long at work.

~Adam

[85crownHPP]

I like the idea of cooling an air intake with the A/C bottle thingy. All that coldness gets wasted under the hood, why not use it to cool something.
You could let it idle with the AC on to get nice and cold, then do your run with it off.

[mrltd]

I like the idea of cooling an air intake with the A/C bottle thingy. All that coldness gets wasted under the hood, why not use it to cool something.
You could let it idle with the AC on to get nice and cold, then do your run with it off.

During the run it'd be off regardless. WOT cutoff. It'd be Somewhat beneficial. I wrapped an ice cold towel (from the icebag on the intake) around my CAI tube on my old car and it made a noticable difference. Mainly becasue of insulating the pipe from the exhaust and underhood heat.

[p71towny]

You bastards have me thinkin about coiling my fuel line around the vics a/c lines when I swap engines. Might just work, this place rocks for ideas!!

[interceptor1985]

Hmm two turbo coupe turbo's and one 302....intercooler anyone?
anyway for non turbo I would use dynamat around the CAI pipe and wrap over that with one of those intake covers they have in summit catalog I'm sure that would keep heat away

[turbo2256b]

Ford was gonna do that on the new Lightning, was supposed to gain 50hp. I guess that idea is scraped along with the rest of SVT...

A good friend of mine worked on the design unbenonst to me at the time. When I worked for a turbo designer a frend that worked in the shop and I did one on one of his cars.