96 explorer cam different than mustang cam?

[1987cp]

Interesting. Inputting the sequential-fire with 170 cfm/runner (which I'm sure is way high for a lowpo lower) does bring the Vic cam with E7 heads down to a much more realistic 218hp@4000rpm.

Would a way to adapt this to a 4V/dual-plane be to figure the typical flow per cylinder based on manifold flow data and input that under the sequential-fire settings?

[gadget73]

right click in the graph area and select properties. select whatever saved profiles as set 2, 3, or 4 and there ya go.

I think you're gonna need to tweak your settings there. theres no way in hell a lopo cam and gt40 heads is going to make 290 hp and 400 ft/lb of torque. The intake settings are especially touchy. The only way to get something that sounded reasonable on mine was to input the flow per-runner instead of overall. I had it at like 500 cfm and it was displaying silly amounts of power. Avg on a stock Explorer lower is 178, so I used that and was able to get values that seem reasonable, 263 hp@ 5,000 and 335 ft/lb @3500 seems like something I can believe given that a stock HO does 225hp and 300 ft/lb. It might still be a bit on the high side, but with the heads, the 1.7 roller rockers, and the exhaust, I can believe 40 hp gain.

[1987cp]

Hey, that's neat. How did you do the multiple graphs?

[gadget73]

I did the HO vs Exploder cam a while back on desktop dyno, this is what i got out of it. Its really a pretty small difference one way or the other if you want to be really honest.Not sure I'd swap one for the other if the motor was already together.

[torquelover]

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As to give you guys a idea what I want from my wagon is just to be a great cruiser that is better then the Lopo in it right now and I want to be able to do a nasty burnout everytime I want to instead of the 50/50 change I can if I attempt it now.lol I have the heads, 19# injectors and HO computer for it sitting waiting to be slapped on. I will get more exotic with the engine when I am done bagging it and all the fun stuff.
Thanks.

Get a line-lock. Silly burnouts on command. Easier on the car, especially the rear brakes.

[1987cp]

More thread digging ... thanks to posters on this thread who helped me feel comfortable swapping my HO cam for an Exploder version! (sorry Zwack, you can't have mine!)

Linky to plots of DD torque curves: http://www.supermotors.net/vehicles/...ry/17134/61578

[zwack88]

Alrighty I think I am going to go for a explorer one then. Thanks guys!

[gadget73]

Feels more responsive off the bottom end, over about 3,000 rpm no difference really. It runs pretty good all in all.

[mrltd]

I don't have them anymore. I sold one and I don't remember what I did with the other... Might see what Scott has sitting around.

[zwack88]

Alrighty I think I just may go with one of those instead. Gadget you threw one in your new HO didnt you? How do you like it compaired to the HO camshaft?

Also Mike you have any explorer cams sitting around, I saw in the post above you had 2 sitting around. Granted that was 2 years ago. If you do are you willing to part with one? If now I have found some on ebay.

[mrltd]

The explorers are damn stout, but the exhaust kills about 50hp or better. Go google explorer exhaust manifolds. The explorer cam is going to be better than the HO. I really didn't like the HO cam that much. The explorer cam will work fine with the HO ECM and 19lbers.

[gadget73]

The stock Explorer exhaust is horrible. The engines actually will make a lot more power than a stock HO motor with those heads. The cam makes pretty darn close to the same power and has a little more low end torque. I did some desktop dyno testing (i know, I know) and it shows very little difference over about 3,000 rpm, but under 3k, the Explorer cam is definitely more stout.

Explorer cam or HO cam both work fine with the Mark VII ECM and 19# injectors.

[zwack88]

Ok I have been debating this one in my head. I mean I rode in a friends 5.0 explorer and I was not impressed. I mean I know it is in an explorer and not a stang or a panther but would I be disappointed in it as opposed to a HO cam. My wagon is a huge bitch so it might need more low end torque as opposed to a sedan or such.

As to give you guys a idea what I want from my wagon is just to be a great cruiser that is better then the Lopo in it right now and I want to be able to do a nasty burnout everytime I want to instead of the 50/50 change I can if I attempt it now.lol I have the heads, 19# injectors and HO computer for it sitting waiting to be slapped on. I will get more exotic with the engine when I am done bagging it and all the fun stuff.

So if I decide on a explorer cam, would I need a different computer or injectors??

I also know I am thread digging but I didnt want to start a new one.

Thanks.

[Pimp Hard Or Bust]

ah fuckit ill just keep the stock HO cam

[Pimp Hard Or Bust]

how about this one?

http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...4&autoview=sku