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    ok i have i think around 250 to the rear wheels i would like to get 350 or 300 ftlbs to rear increase from 50-100 how could i do it with out spend a whole lot of money
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    1986 Crown Victoria 302 Cold Air,Mac Shorty headers, Full Dual Exhaust with Super Forty Flows, Wagon Suspension with a Full Sound System Replacement 1/4 time 17.486 @ 77.43mph

    #2
    Engine swap.

    Find a 5.0 HO out of a mustang, and use that as the basis for your carb swap.

    Put an edelcrock 600 on an HO longblock (maybe with 1.7 roller rockers or even a better cam) and it would give you lots of power, as well...
    1983 Grand Marquis 2Dr Sedan "Mercules"
    Tremec TKO conversion, hydraulic clutch, HURST equipped!

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      #3
      Look around for an explorer engine too, they've got better heads and you could resell the intake for a go price if you want to go carbed. I did an HO swap and for the same $$ I probably could have bought an explorer engine.
      -Matt
      1968 Fairlane 500 - 1998 Camaro Z/28

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        #4
        well HO swap doesnt help out much in torque, but once you get to moddin the HO thats another story
        1999 CVPI
        Old Rides
        1988 Ford Mustang GT (trickflow stage 1)
        1989 Mercury Grand Marquis LS (5.SLO)
        1989 Ford Thunderbird SC (3.8 Supacharged)

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          #5
          With a carb, you can get away with more camshaft choices, thats for sure...
          1983 Grand Marquis 2Dr Sedan "Mercules"
          Tremec TKO conversion, hydraulic clutch, HURST equipped!

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            #6
            I agree with these guys- it'll be easier to get your torque building up higher once you get to a better engine base. Do the HO swap (I'd go with the GT40) and move along from there.
            2011 Mustang GT Premium, MT82, Kona/Saddle, HIDs, 3.73s, 19s, hood/side stripes, UPR 1.5" springs with adjustable panhard bar, and UMI solid LCAs and relocation brackets.
            1992 Explorer Eddie Bauer, slight lift, 34s, and A/C...
            1979 Bronco Custom, 351M/C6/NP205, 4" lift, 35s, lots of fender trimming.

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              #7
              351W swap. As far as torque goes, no replacement for displacement.

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                #8
                Originally posted by TommyN
                351W swap. As far as torque goes, no replacement for displacement.
                :stupid:
                86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                Originally posted by phayzer5
                I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by TommyN
                  351W swap. As far as torque goes, no replacement for displacement.
                  I say that's the easier way. It's hard to make that torque with a 302 with low horsepower and no sacrafices. 302's tend to make less troque than HP. (Except for us stock)
                  1989 LTD Crown Victoria LX.
                  -3.73s' w/ Track Loc - KYB GR-2 Shocks All Around - TRW HD Cargo Coils Rear - Moog Front Coils - 1 Inch Rear Sway Bar - 4.6 Lower Air Box- Stock Headers - Off Road H Pipe - Turbo Mufflers.

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                    #10
                    Not true at all. Most 302s make more torque than HP, only whence you get over 400hp does a 302 possibly make less torque than hp. Both are good, but stock for stock, obviously the 351 will make more. An 5.0L HO is better than a 351 stock, that is fact. A 351 4 barrel HO is actually a bit less HP than a 5.0L EFI HO, but slightly more torque, keep in mind we are talking 10hp and 10 ft*lbs of difference here. There is more than that in variation from engine to engine. If you work from a 351, you will suck more gas, but can more cheaply make some nice HP and torque. If you work from a 302 EFI, you can make a nice hp and torque, and still retain the mileage, if not increase mileage.

                    Something to note is maybe going with an EFI conversion, yes it's harder but more rewarding I think. Scott as well as I have EFI motors and we both get good mileage. Scott has 230hp to the wheels, and still gets over 20mpg.

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                      #11
                      Hmm. Most of the Stangs I've seen built have more HP than torque. By alot. I guess what you said about under 400 hp is true.

                      I want a 351 EFI motor. I don't wanna go carbbed. Too much money.

                      I guess go with a cam that's made for towing and stuff.
                      1989 LTD Crown Victoria LX.
                      -3.73s' w/ Track Loc - KYB GR-2 Shocks All Around - TRW HD Cargo Coils Rear - Moog Front Coils - 1 Inch Rear Sway Bar - 4.6 Lower Air Box- Stock Headers - Off Road H Pipe - Turbo Mufflers.

                      4 Door Muscle
                      Supermotors

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                        #12
                        Got that backwards as well buddy. Carbed is cheaper to make than EFI. EFI parts are more expensive to get. I would love an EFI 5.8L, I've seen it before, but I am still trying to figure out how or where they got a GT40 lower intake for the 5.8L.

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                          #13
                          Well I was told that the 351 EFI motor is expensive. To make an EFI out of a carbbed motor it would take some effort and money.

                          O well. Whatever. EFI for this box, Carbbed for the next. Easier that way.
                          1989 LTD Crown Victoria LX.
                          -3.73s' w/ Track Loc - KYB GR-2 Shocks All Around - TRW HD Cargo Coils Rear - Moog Front Coils - 1 Inch Rear Sway Bar - 4.6 Lower Air Box- Stock Headers - Off Road H Pipe - Turbo Mufflers.

                          4 Door Muscle
                          Supermotors

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                            #14
                            You must have made a typo somehwere. You realize that you said carbed was too expensive in your last post?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Blaze86Vic
                              Got that backwards as well buddy. Carbed is cheaper to make than EFI. EFI parts are more expensive to get. I would love an EFI 5.8L, I've seen it before, but I am still trying to figure out how or where they got a GT40 lower intake for the 5.8L.
                              i dont know jack about the 5.8 buit if it will match the heads, ive been told an intake from a 5.0 explorer is identical to a GT40

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