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    Originally posted by Mainemantom View Post
    WOW look at that wide white wall tire.
    Your wagon looks much better
    Haha it's more a yellow wall these days. I use it as a spare. It's a Sears Allstate from dad's 51 Ford. It's from the 70's and somehow has absolutely zero rot.
    1990 Country Squire - weekend cruiser, next project
    1988 Crown Vic LTD Wagon - waiting in the wings

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      Looking good with it all stripped down.
      ~David~

      My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
      My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

      Originally posted by ootdega
      My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

      Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
      But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

      Originally posted by gadget73
      my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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        Took the tailgate and rear bumper off. The tailgate was pretty heavy. The aluminum bumper was quite light.

        Dug into the rust spot on the left quarter. It got bigger, as I think it always does. Ended up cutting out some of the inner structure as well. Also cut out the damaged seam because rust had worked its way into that as well.

        Creating the patches was not bad. Welding them in wasn't either. The problem is this panel has an odd radius. It's relatively flat in front, with a curve on the rear. This, combined with the damage from what looked like a jack being used on the edge, and the welding made this thing "oil can" central (the metal pops in and out). I ended up getting some 16ga square tubing, and with the help of sheet metal screws, plug welded the quarter to the tubing to lock it down. It's still absolutely wavy as can be, but they aren't deep and they are stable, so filler will hold. Apologies to all you real body work guys that know the real way to fix this.

        Ordered primers and some wax and grease remover to the tune of $500. Ouch.
        1990 Country Squire - weekend cruiser, next project
        1988 Crown Vic LTD Wagon - waiting in the wings

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          Originally posted by Tiggie View Post
          Took the tailgate and rear bumper off. The tailgate was pretty heavy. The aluminum bumper was quite light.
          You aren't kidding. The tailgates are very nearly a 2-person job. I have two in storage that I've moved around a couple times and it's no fun.

          Going from that to an aluminum bumper, it feels like you could toss the thing like a javelin.

          Nice to see the dedication here. It's clear from recent Bring a Trailer postings that these cars will command a decent value when they're in good shape, so whether its for yourself or the future, it's worth making it nice.

          Current driver: 91
          Panthers: 83 GM 2dr | 84 TC | 85 CS
          | 88 TC | 91 GM
          Not Panthers: 85 Ranger | Ranger trailer | 91 Acclaim | 05 Focus
          Gone: 97 CV | 83 TC | 04 Focus | 86 GM
          | Junkyards

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            Oil canning no fun. Nice fix!
            ~David~

            My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
            My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

            Originally posted by ootdega
            My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

            Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
            But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

            Originally posted by gadget73
            my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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              Woof, having done tailgate R&R, that is not a fun job at all even with two people, especially trying to get it hung again and accounting for slop in the hinge assembly.


              My Cars:
              -1964 Comet 202 (116K Miles) - Long Term Project
              -1979 Ford LTD Landau (38K Miles) - New Cruiser

              -1986 Dodge D-150 Royale SE (112K Miles) - Slowly Getting Put Back Together
              -1987 Grand Marquis Colony Park LS (343K Miles) - April 2017 + September 2019 POTM Winner
              -1997 Grand Marquis LS (244K Miles) - March 2015 + January 2019 POTM Winner - Sold (05/2011 - 07/2024)

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                Tailgate reinstall with definitely be a two man job! Going to put some epoxy primer on all that patch today and start some body filler tomorrow.
                1990 Country Squire - weekend cruiser, next project
                1988 Crown Vic LTD Wagon - waiting in the wings

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                  You can coat the epoxy that quickly with body filler?
                  ~David~

                  My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                  My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                  Originally posted by ootdega
                  My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                  Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                  But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                  Originally posted by gadget73
                  my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                    Originally posted by 87gtVIC View Post
                    You can coat the epoxy that quickly with body filler?
                    24-48 hours is what the paint manufacturer suggest (Southern Polyurethanes). I'm still unsure of body filler over any paint but the pros seem to prefer it.
                    1990 Country Squire - weekend cruiser, next project
                    1988 Crown Vic LTD Wagon - waiting in the wings

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                      I am with you on the filler over the epoxy. That is how I have prepped some spare doors for the future of my car if needed. I was just curious about the dry time required before applying filler on top of it.

                      I used Eastwoods epoxy primer and that took a number of days to dry.
                      ~David~

                      My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                      My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                      Originally posted by ootdega
                      My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                      Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                      But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                      Originally posted by gadget73
                      my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                        Filler work is mostly, if not all, done. Should have grabbed some close up pics.
                        Scuffed this with 180 and the DA today. That was a weird process because dull white paint makes it hard to see where you have sanded it well, or when it needs more. Also scuffed the door jambs with a red scotch Brite... found myself wishing this was a two door instead of a five door.
                        Hope to mask the jambs and glass tomorrow and get it clean. Then epoxy hopefully Thursday morning. Want to do it outside but have a short window of time in the morning before the sun starts baking it. Inside the garage is an option (and will be used for the base and clear) but I have to clean, move everything out, and cover up what remains.
                        1990 Country Squire - weekend cruiser, next project
                        1988 Crown Vic LTD Wagon - waiting in the wings

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                          Looking good. I wish I was local to lend you a hand. Fun stuff…. Well once it’s done it’s all fun. The process is long and tedious but gratifying once complete.

                          On my Mercedes one day blasts I noticed my primer shrinking back more so then I would have liked.

                          When I recently repainted my front bumper I upped the grit to 400 before primer and allowed the primer to dry two hot days before wet sanding out and painting as opposed to 320 grit scratch and only allowing 5 hours to dry before wet sanding.

                          its stuff you really have to look for but I know its there on some of the panels.


                          if you do have the chance to let the primer sit for a week or two before blocking out I’d definitely do it.
                          Last edited by 87gtVIC; 06-26-2024, 04:53 PM.
                          ~David~

                          My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                          My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                          Originally posted by ootdega
                          My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                          Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                          But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                          Originally posted by gadget73
                          my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                            Originally posted by 87gtVIC View Post
                            Looking good. I wish I was local to lend you a hand. Fun stuff…. Well once it’s done it’s all fun. The process is long and tedious but gratifying once complete.

                            On my Mercedes one day blasts I noticed my primer shrinking back more so then I would have liked.

                            When I recently repainted my front bumper I upped the grit to 400 before primer and allowed the primer to dry two hot days before wet sanding out and painting as opposed to 320 grit scratch and only allowing 5 hours to dry before wet sanding.

                            its stuff you really have to look for but I know its there on some of the panels.


                            if you do have the chance to let the primer sit for a week or two before blocking out I’d definitely do it.
                            I had a similar issue with the 88 wagon way back in 2007. So when I did the Rustang, I primed it in the fall and it had all winter to shrink before I blocked it! I hope this will be in primer by Saturday. Then gonna take a little break from it until after July 4.
                            On a side note, an old timer told me that if your paint shrinks down and you start to see sanding marks several days or weeks later, you have good adhesion! So there's a perk for ya when you see those little places.
                            1990 Country Squire - weekend cruiser, next project
                            1988 Crown Vic LTD Wagon - waiting in the wings

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                              Okay. That made me laugh. I’ll take it.
                              ~David~

                              My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
                              My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz

                              Originally posted by ootdega
                              My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."

                              Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
                              But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck

                              Originally posted by gadget73
                              my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.




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                                Did the jambs and window frames. With the glass still in the doors and the interior still in the car, this seemed like the best way. Lots of masking, however.
                                This probably sounds crazy but there is a decent mental game going on while painting after the first coat over primer. Have to remember where you've been and not, since you can't see a difference really. There are a lot of edges in the door jambs to forget or cover twice accidentally. This way lets me focus on those areas and not worry about the rest of the car.
                                I really like the base I am using. Southern Polyurethanes makes it. Lays now so nicely I think my nine year old kid could do it. Covers nicely as well.
                                The new while absolutely blows away the old white in brightness. I hope it's not too bright.
                                1990 Country Squire - weekend cruiser, next project
                                1988 Crown Vic LTD Wagon - waiting in the wings

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