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    Window Died Again

    I'm having a problem with my Grand Marquis (86/ Coupe). I had the motors replaced at the end of June when the drivers window motor finally quit. They've both worked alright since despite the fact that each window has some play in it. Yesterday the drivers window stopped working. When you push the switch to move it down nothing happens, except all it drains all the power from the car (Dims all lights, kills clock and radio, and the idle changes). I just held it for a second because I'm thinking the regulator is jammed and if I hold the switch it'll burn up the new motor. Now my problem is trying to find replacement regulators for both sides, ideally new ones. I tried Teamfordparts and ebay, Partstrain, and many others and no luck. Three dealershiops tried a nationwide locator and said they were unavailable/ obselete. So does anyone have any advice or suggestions about what they think is wrong or where I might find the parts. I haven't pulled the door panel yet to see and will update soon. Thanks in adavance.

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    Ext: Medium Shadow Blue Metallic, Int: Midnight Blue, 3.08 open, 235/70/15 Goodyear Aquatread III, Rebuilt AOD w/ Transgo Shift Kit, 3G upgrade from 95 5.0 Mustang, Walker Dual Exhaust w/ H pipe, Viper 5900ST alarm, De-smogged, Rear Civ. Sway Bar, and more.
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    #2
    Okay, pulled the door panel and had a look at things. From what I can see, nothing is jammed or caught in the regulator and the gear teeth all look fine to me. Gonna bring it to the shop tomorrow and have them see if its the motor that went (not a motorcraft, but was new).

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    1986 Grand Marquis LS 2 Door
    Ext: Medium Shadow Blue Metallic, Int: Midnight Blue, 3.08 open, 235/70/15 Goodyear Aquatread III, Rebuilt AOD w/ Transgo Shift Kit, 3G upgrade from 95 5.0 Mustang, Walker Dual Exhaust w/ H pipe, Viper 5900ST alarm, De-smogged, Rear Civ. Sway Bar, and more.

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      #3
      I have never heard of a new window motor in these cars working worth a shit for more than a few months. Re-building old motors with new gears is the way to go.


      1984 Grand Marquis GS - CFI-SEFI conversion, Explorer 302, GT40 intakes, GT40P heads, 1.7 roller rockers, HO Cam, ASP Underdrive Pulley, 2.5" Dual exhaust, Flowmaster Delta 50 mufflers, 3.55 Trac-Lock, Rear disk's, Moog cargo coils, ES rear poly bushings, PI front and rear sway bars, 3G alt., Mark VIII fan, custom Auto-meter dash
      1990 Crown Victoria Country Squire - Explorer 302, HO cam, dual exhaust, 3.55 Trac-Lock, PI rear sway bar (SOLD)
      1982 LTD Wagon (R.I.P.) -|-1984 Grand Marquis LS(R.I.P.)

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        #4
        thats why I love the crankups that we got in teh cop car
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          #5
          lucky bastid

          2009 Ford F-350 6.4 powerstroke diesel. 1977 Ford F-150 built 300 six, 5 speed trans. 1976 MG MGB roadster, 359w, t5 5 speed. 1996 Kawasaki ninja ZX6R.
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            #6
            Yea, I agree the replacement motors arent working out so great. I should have gone with motorcraft. Gonna drop the car at the shop monday and have them take a look and see if it is the motor. If they were to replace the defective one they'd have to order another which takes a couple days. I'll probably just wind up tracking down a new motorcraft one. Oddly the motocraft door actuator I waited weeks to get works very poorly. It's NOS from the 90's and barely has enough strength to unlock the door unless you hit it a few times, unless the car is on of course, go figure.


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            1986 Grand Marquis LS 2 Door
            Ext: Medium Shadow Blue Metallic, Int: Midnight Blue, 3.08 open, 235/70/15 Goodyear Aquatread III, Rebuilt AOD w/ Transgo Shift Kit, 3G upgrade from 95 5.0 Mustang, Walker Dual Exhaust w/ H pipe, Viper 5900ST alarm, De-smogged, Rear Civ. Sway Bar, and more.

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              #7
              I dont think new motorcraft motors even work well


              1984 Grand Marquis GS - CFI-SEFI conversion, Explorer 302, GT40 intakes, GT40P heads, 1.7 roller rockers, HO Cam, ASP Underdrive Pulley, 2.5" Dual exhaust, Flowmaster Delta 50 mufflers, 3.55 Trac-Lock, Rear disk's, Moog cargo coils, ES rear poly bushings, PI front and rear sway bars, 3G alt., Mark VIII fan, custom Auto-meter dash
              1990 Crown Victoria Country Squire - Explorer 302, HO cam, dual exhaust, 3.55 Trac-Lock, PI rear sway bar (SOLD)
              1982 LTD Wagon (R.I.P.) -|-1984 Grand Marquis LS(R.I.P.)

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                #8
                Nope, just another reason crank windows are better. :p
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                  #9
                  Maybe in the end I'll just rebuild a set of Motorcraft ones myself. Crank windows and definitely less work, but to me power is much more convenient and worth all the hassle.

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                    #10
                    Only motor in my car I've had any trouble with is the Ford reman one. The other 3 are original and work perfectly.
                    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

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                    I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                      #11
                      the plastic gears arent the only parts go bad - the brushes in the motor wear out too. You can replace those with decent junkyard ones.

                      The one motor i rebiult both ways quit 2 years later, and was all corroded inside. I think the key is to seal them back up well afterwards maybe with sillicone, so water doesnt get in. I replced mine with a rebiult and its noisy
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                        #12
                        Have an update on the window problem. Was getting ready to drop the car off tomorrow and have the guy try and find out why the motor siezed when my dad asked to go have a look at it. The door panel was off already and within a minute of poking around it was fixed. The problem was the new motor came with some sort of an extension plug that just lengthens the feed to the motor. Problem is the extra slack that got tucked into the door got pinched in the regulator. The damaged extension was tossed as it was not needed to begin with. Window works fine again, just want to regrease everything before i put everything back on.

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                        1986 Grand Marquis LS 2 Door
                        Ext: Medium Shadow Blue Metallic, Int: Midnight Blue, 3.08 open, 235/70/15 Goodyear Aquatread III, Rebuilt AOD w/ Transgo Shift Kit, 3G upgrade from 95 5.0 Mustang, Walker Dual Exhaust w/ H pipe, Viper 5900ST alarm, De-smogged, Rear Civ. Sway Bar, and more.

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                          #13
                          My front driver side is dying, used to be it wouldn't roll down by itself, but now it does it both going up and down. Fucking things.
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