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    Quote Originally Posted by Giraffe View Post
    Wish I wasn't so far from you. I'd love to swap in a set of vent window doors on my '90.
    I had the vent window swap parts packed well and sent to me via Greyhound. All went well. I just don't have the motivation to do that mod right now.
    My back hurts just thinking about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kodachrome Wolf View Post
    If you're not planning on keeping the A-pillar interior trim, I definitely could use a set. Mine have some small cracks. Same goes for that metal trim above the doors if you can get it off without bending it. I'll gladly pay shipping and whatever you decide to value those bits at if unless you're keeping them.
    I'm unsure if I'm going to keep those or not. I guess it depends on the if they're better than the GMs. I'll let you know once I have the "full pile of stuff" if I plan on parting with them.

    Any idea how to ship them without them risking getting bent? I guess lots of padding? I haven't really shipped much stuff in the past.

    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post
    Such weird rust. Floor pans still seem to have factory paint on them yet the frame around it couldn't stand the test of time. Such a shame.

    Seats should do me well. Got home from seeing you around 9:30am and was outside until 3pm cleaning them up. They cleaned up really well for 30+year old seats.

    Back seat had a bunch of sand ingrained it in....even with the pre-vacuum the upholstery extractor still pulled a bunch of sand out. Ever took that car to the beach? Steamer helped out too with some matted spots. All in all I am quite pleased. All that's left to do it pull my existing seats apart to swap on the proper two door hinges and other trim bits I have and put them into the car.

    Quick tip on a pillar trims...dash pad removal is required to sneak them out.

    Erik. Check for those braces from under engine k member to behind control arm frame on your 87. If it does not have it (my 87 did not) just swap those puppies over before the car goes off to the big junkyard in the sky.
    Agreed, the rust is really strange. The floor pans are in PERFECT condition. No idea how the frame is so bad in spots. It's not even like the AC was dripping onto that side as it hasn't worked in forever and a day. Maybe the trim that goes around the roof at the edge of the vinyl is leaking water and it's dripping down the inside along the edge of the body onto the frame? (that would put it right around the trans cross member). I remember a long time ago I ran across a for sale ad for a clone (or maybe one of the ones used in the movie) of the Blues Brothers 2000 CV and the frame was completely gone at the trans cross member.

    Glad the seats are going to work for you! No, didn't really take it to the beach that much. I'm betting that sand is from camping. I always took the car to every camping trip and places like Cedar Point or Sears Bellows, the camp sites are all really sandy. I haven't vacuumed the car in a few years which doesn't help.

    Thanks for the tips! I would have completely forgotten to take those braces.

    Quote Originally Posted by Giraffe View Post
    Wish I wasn't so far from you. I'd love to swap in a set of vent window doors on my '90.
    I'm actually going to keep the whole doors as my doors on the GM are in pretty rough shape on the bottom. I'm not planning on swapping them just yet because I like the two tone of the GM and don't want to worry about trying to match the doors paint up just yet (if even possible).

    Quote Originally Posted by Mainemantom View Post
    Make sure you pull the hood to cowl seal if it is in good shape. Also the hood hinges. Those are nice to have spare parts.
    Good call! I would have missed those. I'll make sure to pull them as well. Thanks.


    Stripping of the car continues...
    • Exhaust is now off. Three of the four bolts snapped right off. I guess that makes removal easier
    • Transmission linkage, TV, electrical connector, speedometer cable all disconnected.
    • Transmission mount disconnected.
    • AC chopped out with the cut off wheel.
    • Engine mounts loosened.
    • Starter wire disconnected as well as engine ground wires.


    All that's holding the engine in now is just the engine mounts. Next step is to finish pulling stuff from the body and then it's time to pull the whole engine/trans out. Moving along nicely!


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    Quote Originally Posted by slack View Post
    Agreed, the rust is really strange. The floor pans are in PERFECT condition. No idea how the frame is so bad in spots.
    Sort of like The Ice Car. Body is nearly non existent but somehow the frame and underside look like a different car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slack View Post
    Agreed, the rust is really strange. The floor pans are in PERFECT condition. No idea how the frame is so bad in spots. It's not even like the AC was dripping onto that side as it hasn't worked in forever and a day. Maybe the trim that goes around the roof at the edge of the vinyl is leaking water and it's dripping down the inside along the edge of the body onto the frame? (that would put it right around the trans cross member). I remember a long time ago I ran across a for sale ad for a clone (or maybe one of the ones used in the movie) of the Blues Brothers 2000 CV and the frame was completely gone at the trans cross member.

    Glad the seats are going to work for you! No, didn't really take it to the beach that much. I'm betting that sand is from camping. I always took the car to every camping trip and places like Cedar Point or Sears Bellows, the camp sites are all really sandy. I haven't vacuumed the car in a few years which doesn't help.

    Thanks for the tips! I would have completely forgotten to take those braces.


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    Seats look good. Be sure to Scotchguard those seats. Cheap prevention from spills and stains.

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    PM sent regarding parts off this '89. They would be used for Eva's restoration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainemantom View Post
    Seats look good. Be sure to Scotchguard those seats. Cheap prevention from spills and stains.
    Yes. After a 8:1 super clean soak....drill brush agitation....plain water extract I went back over everything with an extractor solution which had scotchguard in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post


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    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post
    Yes. After a 8:1 super clean soak....drill brush agitation....plain water extract I went back over everything with an extractor solution which had scotchguard in it.
    That's really awesome! The seats look great. Sorry you had to go through so much work cleaning them. They were definitely a bit neglected over the years of my ownership. lol.


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    My friend came over after work today and we made a bunch more progress on the disassembly.
    • More trim removed
    • Rubber seals on doors removed
    • front clip removed
    • frame braces removed
    • police front and rear sway bars removed
    • trunk lid removed
    • rear taillights and housings removed.
    • bumpers removed
    • hood removed as well as weather seal by the firewall
    • headlight wiring harness removed
    • probably more.




    Front clip. I was happy to find out that the fenders are in awesome shape on the inside. I was worried they were going to be a hidden mess. The pic above makes it look like there's some rot but that's actually just some leaves.


    That popcorn bucket from 2018 works well as a "i'll never find where this bolt went to" dumping ground.


    End of the day:


    Parts laying about before bringing them inside.


    Tomorrow hopefully the engine and trans are both coming out.
    Last edited by slack; 06-18-2021 at 01:39 AM.


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    Cool, nice work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slack View Post
    That's really awesome! The seats look great. Sorry you had to go through so much work cleaning them. They were definitely a bit neglected over the years of my ownership. lol.
    No worries. Good excuse to bust out the bissell that so rarely gets used.

    Never seen the entire front clip removed as an assembly like that. Cool!

    Soon there will be nothing left.
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    Let me know if you decide to get rid of the driver side inner fender. I could use it on my 90 CV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerekTheGreat View Post
    Cool, nice work.
    Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post
    No worries. Good excuse to bust out the bissell that so rarely gets used.

    Never seen the entire front clip removed as an assembly like that. Cool!

    Soon there will be nothing left.
    Yeah, I wasn't expecting it to come off like that either but my friend who is helping me with this was taught to just pull the whole front off in one piece when stripping cars. After it was off, it made taking the center support off pretty easy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mainemantom View Post
    Let me know if you decide to get rid of the driver side inner fender. I could use it on my 90 CV.
    Sure. I'll definitely let you know if I plan on parting with it down the road.


    Friday, after work, engine and transmission came out:




    I don't currently have an engine stand and the local Harbor Freights were out of stock. Online is about 2 weeks to get one. So, for now, it's in my garage sitting on this little dolly that's screaming in pain from the weight of everything. The wood already made a popping sound when we lowered the engine/trans on it and one wheel is definitely toast. I guess I got my one use out of it which makes it a harbor freight success story. lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainemantom View Post
    Let me know if you decide to get rid of the driver side inner fender. I could use it on my 90 CV.
    Just to let you know, 90-91 drivers side plastic inner fenders are different from 89 down. The top area where the vacuum pod/relay holder is different. WagonMan
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    Very good thanks. 90-91 only then.

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    No pics this update as there's not anything really interesting to take pics about.
    Finished up:
    • Drive shaft removed
    • Exhaust removed
    • More trim removed
    • Interior cleared out of all the parts
    • Finished taking the rest of the dash/glove box apart
    • Seat belts removed
    • Rear window light and stuff back there cleared out
    • Trunk cleared out
    • Rear doors removed


    Besides some odds & ends, basically all that's left is the front doors.

    Does anyone know if the electrical connector for the door is under the dash or inside the door? If it's inside the door, I can just cut the wire going to to the door and pop the doors off and be done with it.


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    If your windshield is perfect and you can use it in something else, pull it or have it swapped out. They are getting hard to find at least here. Pinkington is all that I can get without waiting or spending big bucks. Carlite is the best.
    Pull the third brake light and wire down to the connector. and the little clips that hold it to the body. They are yellow and like to strip out.

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    For the doors I have fished the guts out of the doors and left wires hanging from body. Not sure if anything is easily accessible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mainemantom View Post
    If your windshield is perfect and you can use it in something else, pull it or have it swapped out. They are getting hard to find at least here. Pinkington is all that I can get without waiting or spending big bucks. Carlite is the best.
    Pull the third brake light and wire down to the connector. and the little clips that hold it to the body. They are yellow and like to strip out.
    I was thinking about the windshield and back glass in the back of my mind as possibly being something getting hard to find. I'll try to save both. The back is in perfect shape and the front only has a small chip in it. I never pulled one of these out before so it should be interesting.

    3rd brake light and connectors are now pulled.

    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post
    For the doors I have fished the guts out of the doors and left wires hanging from body. Not sure if anything is easily accessible.
    I kept digging on the passenger's side (because there's more room under the dash) and I was only able to find one connector. The rest of it just disappears into the huge snake of wires that run under the dash. I just decided to hack those off.


    Unlike the back doors, there was this tiny metal tab that went from the door hinge into the body (where it then rusted into a single piece). I didn't want to break it but I could get it out/off. I can't see it missing would be that much of an issue if I were to reuse the door. I can't imagine what it could have served as besides maybe a way to line it up at the factory or perhaps a solid ground connection between the door and the body?

    Anyway, here's the broken tab..

    Body side:



    Door hinge side:



    Side question: are these the ditch light relays? Found them just left of the steering column under the dash.


    And any idea what this is? Was around the same area:


    Thanks!


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    Regarding the windshield. If you have never done one and do not have the proper tools, high chance of breaking it. Consider having a windshield place come by and do the removal .

    The black box looks like a windshield wiper delay module.

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