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    For years my transmission will neutral out shifting into overdrive but the after the transmission is warmed up it slips but then catches overdrive. I have just been looking around pricing different shops and decided to just have the transmission rebuilt. I wanted to buy the rebuild kit myself because i get a big discount at oriellys but there are two different kits an ".061 reverse friction drum" or " .080 reverse friction drum" How would i now which kit to get? its an 84 GM. Anyone know if they were the same that year? or are there numbers on the transmission?

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    I read on "FTE" forums that aods before 1983 have a .080 friction plates and after 1983 they used .o61. Is that true? Anyone?

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    try 88grandmarq. I know he's done a number of AOD rebuilds. He may be able to answer you. Not sure that anyone else here has done any involved trans work.

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    This the kit you want... but it doesn't include a new OD band or filter.

    http://www.transmissionpartsusa.com/...-000027002.htm

    If you are going to rebuild it yourself, make sure you have a good manual and the specialty tools, like lip seal protectors, clutch spring compressor, snap ring pliers and bar to measure end clearance.
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    so that all i would need the band and filter and of course gasket? i wasn't planning on doing it myself (yet anyway) i was trying to price some shops that my dad delivers too. That kit would be perfect is that what you use? how were the results?

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    no idea what you need until you get the transmission apart. The kit I listed comes with clutches, steel plates, gaskets, seal and metal seal rings... it does not include the 2 bands, torrington bearings, accumulator pistons or filter. The filter gaskets are included.

    again, if you want to do this yourself, you will need some specialty tools to assemble it correctly, with out those tools re-assembly is next to impossible.
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    These are not DIY's repairs! Without the proper experience and tools I would have someone else do it.


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    i was gonna take everything to a shop. i figured that would come out cheaper then them charging me for there parts. Did yal have any suggestions on a shift kit? i just want a good fast shift with a little feel. nothing crazy.

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    If you have a shop that will do the repairs, with your parts, then that is a GREAT solution!!


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    Not sure where you're at but Lou over at Accurate Transmissions in Belleville, Michigan does a great job. Charged Ash just over $1,000 to rebuild her AOD and that was us dropping it off and picking it up later. Been over a year and it shifts great, not to mention the adjusted the TV cable properly.
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    the transgo shift kit for MECHANICAL AOD is pretty much the way to go. It works well.

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    A lot of places won't use customer-supplied parts because they don't know what exactly they are getting. Ask if they'll do that before you buy the kit, otherwise you may be stuck with it.

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    Well i got a quote for 1000 today. That's with the shops parts. The only problem was the owner said to be there at two and of course wasn't there to check out the car, he gave me the quote over the phone. i really wanted to ask about warranty info and etc... I know the price isn't that bad but i am a kid on a budget and trying to save anyway i can. I am even debating pulling The transmission myself and leaving it off with a transmission guy i quoted before. Decisions....

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    See if you can get any feedback from other people who have used the shop. The AOD is sort of bitchy about needing to be rebuilt correctly. its got the most complicated valve body ever put in an automatic transmission and they don't work for shit if its not done right. I know more than a few people who have had fresh rebuilds burn up in short order, or last just barely out of warranty before it quits. The cheapest price is not necessarily your best value here.

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    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC SE, triple black (Timewarp) - poly front bushings, KYB struts and shocks, Holley SystemMax1 lower intake, SilverFox AOD valve body,

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    I see what you're saying, but if i can save a couple hundred in labor by pulling the aod in the garage ill try. Ill let yal know what happens If it happens :P its gonna be weird driving the Marqee with a properly shifting trans. I can tell this one is barely hanging on sometimes 1-2 shifts get stuck in between for at least two seconds before finally dropping into second

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    pulling it yourself to save some coin is cool, just don't find the cheapest guy who says he can rebuild it, unless he also happens to be good with AOD's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    pulling it yourself to save some coin is cool, just don't find the cheapest guy who says he can rebuild it, unless he also happens to be good with AOD's.
    I support this message. My dad paid a GM dealer something like $2,200 to have the 4L60-E in his Camaro rebuilt and it's worse than it was before. Dealer said, "Oh, normally when people have their transmissions rebuilt they sell the car afterwords." So your best bet is to find a reputable shop. The one I mentioned has been around for decades and my friend has been taking his stuff there for about just as long, whether it's for the track or not and all have held up so far. Ash is having good luck with her trans too. Warranty is 12k/1yr and of course I hope it wont magically poop just after warranty but her car is shifting better than my dad's Mark VII after he had that rebuilt..
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    I would recommend having the shop install the transmission in the car. that way they can set the TV pressure correctly (with a gauge) and they can diagnose and correct any shifting concerns after the rebuild.
    It might cost you more, but it will save you some headache and time.
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    Extremely valid point. Improper pressure settings will usually void the warranty, and it will bake the trans in short order.

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    Thats a good point i didn't think about. Maybe ill go with the quote i got. just gotta research the shop some more. "Better transmission" San Antonio txs.

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