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    Looks good. 41 at the vents is plenty chilly enough for anyone.

    I don't really get the "I'm a manly man, I don't need no AC" thing. If its not comfortable to drive around in, it won't get driven and isn't that the whole point? Then again I don't get people who own vehicles that will not drive them either. Its a car, not garage art.

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    Looks good! Was that 41 driving or idling? If idling it will probably get a little cooler out on the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    Looks good. 41 at the vents is plenty chilly enough for anyone.

    I don't really get the "I'm a manly man, I don't need no AC" thing. If its not comfortable to drive around in, it won't get driven and isn't that the whole point? Then again I don't get people who own vehicles that will not drive them either. Its a car, not garage art.
    Depends on the car. A super low mileage six figure car will depreciate with any mileage so if itís an investment I get it.

    IMO the best classics to own are those that can be driven and enjoyed

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    I thought I was that "no A/C" guy for a while. What it really amounted to was that I was too cheap to pay someone to fix It right, or buy the vacuum pump and gauges to do it myself. If a car came equipped with A/C, I'm now fully in the camp of it must work!

    41 was on the road. Creeps a little in stoplight to stoplight traffic to maybe 45-46. I'm pleased.

    When I vacuumed it down, it had a small leak somewhere. I found it today. A line from the reciver/drier (I don't know exactly what it's called on this system) is leaking. It was preassembled with the condenser and I never checked it. Hard to get to now. That's my next fix. Hopefully I will be able to get to it with the grille out. Otherwise... the scenario is going to be some serious disassembly of the front of the car. Boo.

    Installed the new steering wheel today to cheer me up a little. Much like.

    Going to put some smaller jets in the carb. I think she's a little fat.
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    yeah the gauges are a little spendy, but they pay for themselves over time. My vac pump was 20 bucks from a flea market. Only thing it needed was a cleaning and an oil change, plus a fairly inexpensive little adapter to convert it from 1/4 flare to whatever fitting that R134a charge hoses use.

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    To move forward, one must move backward.



    Tried with just the grille out but couldn't get enough access.

    So the lower valance came off which wasn't THAT bad. I just do not like playing with painted visible parts.



    Leak was the upper of the two fittings here. The lower one was also loose but not leaking to my knowledge. Tightened both up. I managed to slightly reduce the diameter of the tube between the two fittings when wrangling with this before taking the lower valance off.

    Wondering about the drier since it was not sealed. It came preassembled with the condenser but apparently wasn't that sealed.


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    not much to be done for it now, but if you vacuumed it for a good long while it'll get most of the residual moisture out.

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    Nice work. You've really got a nice car there man.
    Did I read in an earlier post that your next car is going to be a '64 Comet 202 Wagon?
    With a teardrop hood and original looking mini-tubs and steel wheels with hubcaps all around?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clutch47 View Post
    Nice work. You've really got a nice car there man.
    Did I read in an earlier post that your next car is going to be a '64 Comet 202 Wagon?
    With a teardrop hood and original looking mini-tubs and steel wheels with hubcaps all around?
    I would like that!!! But I have absolutely no space left. The 88 is at my dads house. I have six cars in a space designed for four, plus one behind the shop!

    Old Air Products sent me a new drier. The old one was still leaking at the fitting after tightening it. I installed it today. Vacuumed it down but it wouldn't hold. 30 inch to 25 in a few minutes. Small leak somewhere still.

    I didn't want to lose any more of the "good" refrigerant and hope to spot an oil leak. The sniffer doesn't work with hydrocarbons. So I put some 134a in there just so I can use the sniffer. Didn't run the compressor and don't plan to. Great Google says the mineral oil shouldn't have a problem with the 134a as long as a vent the gas after leak diagnosis, vacuum it again, and don't expect to actually run it that way.

    To be continued...
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    I have a serious weakness for '64 Comets of any form. It still amazes me to think about cars of that era on 14 inch bias-ply tires.
    How did ANYONE survive?

    I'm watching this thread in hopes to be inspired to figure out an A/C plan for my Merc.
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    Clutch 47: You could always use a stock ford under dash AC unit for that year. Our 64 Falcon had it. Under the hood the plumbing could be upgraded to the newer compressor. If the thin look under the dash is what you are looking for, the 70's Pinto and maybe others had a dealer installed unit that bolted under the dash. Maybe 3 inches wide. The controls were knobs on the unit.

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    The A/C saga continues.

    The new drier leaked at the same place, so Old Air Products sent me the small tube and fittings that go between the condenser and drier. I installed that today.

    I looked around and found the bottom of the compressor had some oil, which I had found previously and cleaned. The service manual for the compressor says that some oil weeping is okay and "should not be considered a leak". I wanted to check the torque on the compressor cylinder head to be sure. I had to remove the hoses to do that. I did find a couple that were not fully tight. When reinstalling the low side service valve, the threads gave up con the compressor head. There are plenty of threads there, but the o-ring to rotalok converter part causes only three threads to engage.

    I just ordered new service fittings that will do away with the o-ring to rotalok thing, as well as the R12 to R134a conversion fittings. They aren't valves, so I can no longer service the compressor separately from the system. Hopefully I won't have to, and hopefully these new fittings will grab more of the threads.
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    Still waiting on the fittings to get the A/C right again. Supposed to be here tomorrow.

    I put the spare in the trunk on Sunday and the car squatted a little too much. A very slight rake is ideal for me. I added a small leaf on both sides. Brought up the drivers side about 3/4", and the passenger side about 1/2", which combined to make the car level. If it doesn't settle any more, I will be happy.

    Before



    After


    After


    Extra leaf over the bottom one.


    Hopefully I will have some good A/C news to post next time.


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    Looks good either way to me. Such a nice car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post
    Looks good either way to me. Such a nice car.
    Thanks David. I am ready to enjoy it.

    All the A/C parts finally came. Fittings came and worked perfect. Held vacuum for two days. I ordered another drier because the system was basically open while waiting for the fittings. New one came and was not under a vacuum. I installed it anyway. I vacuumed it down again and all was good with that.

    Initial charge of 1 can got me low side pressures of about 10, and high side around 145. It was 40 degrees in the vents on low fan/max cool. Drive report gave me about 50 in the vents. Seeking a little more, I added another half a can to get the low side around 20psi and the high around 175. Same temps on the driveway and road test. From the conversion charts, 1.5 cans is the correct charge for the system.

    Tried both 4th and 5th gear to see if compressor speed made any difference but no change.

    I guess that's all she is going to give, and to be honest it's not quite enough. It's a sunny 86 outside today and we drove to my grandma's for lunch, about 30 minutes. We made it but it was uncomfortable. Low fan speed gets the cold temps that feel good out of the vents, but it's not enough air moving to keep everyone cool enough. Rolling the window down was better as long as we were moving.

    A dark blue car with black interior is a hard thing to cool I suppose.
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