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    15+ Volts

    Ever since I got my new alternator from Ford, I will get the very occasional battery light; stays on maybe one to two minutes, maybe once every other week. It really hasn't been that frequent.

    Well, the other day when it came on, I checked my UltraGauge for codes and noticed the voltage was at 15.7 volts. The light disappeared when it dropped back below that, bounced a couple times back and forth popping the light on and off, then dropped back into the 13.6-14.4 range. My thought is the light is coming on telling me the system is over-charging.

    I'm not really sure how concerned I should be with this problem or if there is anything I really can do to fix it. The few random times I have seen it, it hasn't stayed on for longer than a couple minutes and then I won't see it again for days or weeks at a time. The alternator was supposed to be new and the battery is only a year old as I replaced it last year.


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    #2
    Have you noticed a pattern as to when the light comes on? For example: engine speed, headlights on/off, HVAC blower on high setting, etc?
    The ones who accomplish true greatness, are the foolish who keep pressing onward.
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      #3
      Which vehicle is having this problem?
      Summer car-> 1988 Lincoln Town Car, triple blue, 335,xxx km. New HO 5.0 in and running. Bought 2006/08/22. June 2017 PotM!
      Winter vehicle-> 1995 Ford F-250 XLT SuperCab 4x4, 284,xxx+km. AKA "Brutus" 460/E4OD/4.10 axles and 12 MPG. Bought 2019/08/14

      Originally posted by phayzer5
      I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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        #4
        I would definitely check with Ford and be looking for a replacement. I don't know if using the prior (presumably bad) alternator with your new battery might have messed up the battery and thereby made the battery the problem, but I'd expect a clear and irrefutable explanation if Ford tried to blame the battery.

        2000 Grand Marquis LS HPP, a hand-me-down in 2008 with 128,000 km; 175,000 km as of July 2014
        mods: air filter box 'tuba', headlight relay harness, J-mod (around 186,350 km), 70mm throttle body, KYB Gas-A-Just shocks, aluminum driveshaft, ARA3 PCM

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          #5
          All your connections clean? Any terminals you suspect of being loose?
          Clean your grounds, again.

          Alex.

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            #6
            if the sense wire is resistive somewhere, it'll do this.

            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
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            Originally posted by gadget73
            ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
            Originally posted by dmccaig
            Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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              #7
              +1 on connections, especially the battery sense line. No idea if they changed it, but it used to be the yellow/white wire on the voltage regulator. There was also usually a B marked on the regulator plug. It should tie into the fuse box on the other end.
              86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
              5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

              91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

              1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

              Originally posted by phayzer5
              I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                #8
                Originally posted by His Royal Ghostliness View Post
                Have you noticed a pattern as to when the light comes on? For example: engine speed, headlights on/off, HVAC blower on high setting, etc?
                Majority of my driving is cruise controlled, highway speeds 55-65.

                So I checked the connections and it seems everything is tight. I did note that there was a wire bundle rather pinched up between the fender lip and hood leading from the battery to the alternator. I'm wondering if this didn't break or fray a wire as now that I've tucked it back out of harms way the fluctuation is much more limited.

                I'm watching the computer voltage now from my UltraGauge; it will bound between 13.5 and 14.6 volt. Spiked once at 15.2 in the past few days. But nothing as high as before. Also, the computer voltage is at least 0.2 volts higher than the previous readings straight from the gauge, so the spikes when the light came on would have been about 16 originally...


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                  #9
                  You got an EVTM for that thing yet? If not sounds like it may be time to obtain one. Not necessarily for this particular issue (tho it would be nice to know what that wire is for), but I got the impression you're planning on keeping the car for a long while, and electrical gremlins are bound to pay you visits every now and then.
                  The ones who accomplish true greatness, are the foolish who keep pressing onward.
                  The ones who accomplish nothing, are the wise who know when to quit.

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                    #10
                    Maybe the voltage regulator on the alternator is a turd?
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                      #11
                      I'd check the sense wire in the bundle for a kink. Maybe cut and solder back together at the kink and shove back in the happy no kink place. If the sense wire goes through that bundle, it's probably a safe bet that may be the issue.

                      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                      rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
                      Originally posted by gadget73
                      ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
                      Originally posted by dmccaig
                      Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                        #12
                        The battery light had started coming on more frequently within the past couple weeks. Yesterday it came on and remained for longer than before, bouncing between 16.2 and 16.5 volts...

                        Not wanting to fry the car, I turned it over to Ford this morning. They called after a few hours and said the new alternator was the culprit. So now awaiting a warrantied replacement and the mystery should be solved.


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                          #13

                          stupid bum regulator.

                          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                          rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
                          Originally posted by gadget73
                          ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
                          Originally posted by dmccaig
                          Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                            #14
                            Electronics... almost as fickle as some women
                            The ones who accomplish true greatness, are the foolish who keep pressing onward.
                            The ones who accomplish nothing, are the wise who know when to quit.

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                              #15
                              probably a part made by the company I work for.

                              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                              rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
                              Originally posted by gadget73
                              ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
                              Originally posted by dmccaig
                              Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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