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    Originally posted by sly View Post
    Might try cleaning the contacts on yours as-is. May be oxidized and just need a good clean.
    Can I just shoot some contact cleaner into the plugs? They're pretty gummed up with what appears to be 20+ year old dielectric grease. The clips are also shot on the plugs of the old module.
    2002 Mercury Grand Marquis LSE, Sylvania Zevo LED Headlights, MSD Blaster Coils, K&N Cold Air Intake, Dual Exhaust, 3.27's - Dally Driver

    1983 Lincoln Continental Mark VI, Smog Delete - Summer Cruiser


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      yep. melt out the goo with contact cleaner and maybe take a small pokey tool in there and give it a slight scrape to get rid of any crust. I've had problems with ancient connector grease turning into glue before. At that point it needs to go away. Put a bit of fresh spark plug grease in there and it should be happy again.
      86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
      5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

      91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

      1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

      Originally posted by phayzer5
      I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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        Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
        yep. melt out the goo with contact cleaner and maybe take a small pokey tool in there and give it a slight scrape to get rid of any crust. I've had problems with ancient connector grease turning into glue before. At that point it needs to go away. Put a bit of fresh spark plug grease in there and it should be happy again.
        I'll give that a try and see what happens, the old grease is pretty much glue at this point.
        2002 Mercury Grand Marquis LSE, Sylvania Zevo LED Headlights, MSD Blaster Coils, K&N Cold Air Intake, Dual Exhaust, 3.27's - Dally Driver

        1983 Lincoln Continental Mark VI, Smog Delete - Summer Cruiser


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          +1 just hose it. Also, a firm toothbrush works great as a parts cleaner brush. I have some in my collection for cleaning electronics.

          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
          rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

          Originally posted by gadget73
          ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

          Originally posted by dmccaig
          Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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            Originally posted by sly View Post
            +1 just hose it. Also, a firm toothbrush works great as a parts cleaner brush. I have some in my collection for cleaning electronics.
            Thanks. I’ll do the crank position sensor plugs too now that I finally found where they’re hiding.
            2002 Mercury Grand Marquis LSE, Sylvania Zevo LED Headlights, MSD Blaster Coils, K&N Cold Air Intake, Dual Exhaust, 3.27's - Dally Driver

            1983 Lincoln Continental Mark VI, Smog Delete - Summer Cruiser


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              Originally posted by mercurygm88 View Post
              Hmm...... I might be getting somewhere. Just after my last post I ran into town to grab some stuff from the gas station. The car didn't want to start, I pulled the key out of the ignition and put it back in and removed it several times, tried it again and it fired right up. Coincidence? Anything in the lock cylinder that could potentially cause this no start issue? I realize this is not a chipped key or anything, I don't even know if there are electrical contacts for the lock cylinder. I notice you have to get the key angled just right or it only goes about halfway in. Perhaps something with the ignition switch?
              I took a picture of two ignition switches from my spare parts bin. They do have contacts and do go bad occasionally but not often. Not expensive or hard to replace. You have to keep in mind that you will have a new key though. Click image for larger version

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                only thing that contact in the cylinder does is make the door chime ring when the keys are in the ignition and the door is open. Won't bother how it starts or runs.
                86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                Originally posted by phayzer5
                I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                  Also, they're not hard to re-pin. I just swapped the pins from my old one over to the new one. Still using the original keys. The pins weren't worn much at all.

                  Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                  rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                  Originally posted by gadget73
                  ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                  Originally posted by dmccaig
                  Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                    Ok so I put the new ignition module/Duraspark box in today mainly because the clips were busted on the plugs on the old one. I cleaned the connectors up real good with some contact cleaner and a tooth brush, did the same with the crank position sensor plugs. We'll see how it goes from here.
                    2002 Mercury Grand Marquis LSE, Sylvania Zevo LED Headlights, MSD Blaster Coils, K&N Cold Air Intake, Dual Exhaust, 3.27's - Dally Driver

                    1983 Lincoln Continental Mark VI, Smog Delete - Summer Cruiser


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                      Well it's only been 24 hours but so far so good "knock on wood." I've also noticed that it's starting a lot quicker since I did what I did. Almost an instant start as opposed to a second or two of cranking.
                      2002 Mercury Grand Marquis LSE, Sylvania Zevo LED Headlights, MSD Blaster Coils, K&N Cold Air Intake, Dual Exhaust, 3.27's - Dally Driver

                      1983 Lincoln Continental Mark VI, Smog Delete - Summer Cruiser


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                        Reminds me, I remember my '85 would start nearly instantly too. Makes me think they program a delay into most cars, maybe for oiling reasons?
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                        1988 Town Car Signature - Current Party Barge

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                          Originally posted by DerekTheGreat View Post
                          Reminds me, I remember my '85 would start nearly instantly too. Makes me think they program a delay into most cars, maybe for oiling reasons?
                          ...But... THAT would make sense....
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                            Originally posted by DerekTheGreat View Post
                            Reminds me, I remember my '85 would start nearly instantly too. Makes me think they program a delay into most cars, maybe for oiling reasons?
                            I don't' know. All of my 4.6 panthers from the '95 MGM to the '03 TC would start almost instantly too unless they sat for a few days. I don't think I've ever had a vehicle sit for more than a week without starting it.
                            2002 Mercury Grand Marquis LSE, Sylvania Zevo LED Headlights, MSD Blaster Coils, K&N Cold Air Intake, Dual Exhaust, 3.27's - Dally Driver

                            1983 Lincoln Continental Mark VI, Smog Delete - Summer Cruiser


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                              All the SEFI/EFI stuff waits for the offset pin on whatever sensor they get timing from. Some require one rotation of the engine (crank sensor) the rest require 2 (cam/dizzy sensor). So if the fuel pressure is good, one to two turns of the crank should get it to start firing. "Should".

                              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                              rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                              Originally posted by gadget73
                              ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                              Originally posted by dmccaig
                              Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                                ^^ this, engine has to spin far enough to know what cylinder is coming up. 4.6 cars have a crank position sensor so it requires less than 1 rotation for an ID, 5.0 cars do this from the distributor so it can be up to 2 rotations.

                                CFI cars don't care what cylinder is coming up, its batch fire so it just sprays one injector or the other. I expect the trucks would also light off quicker for the same reason.
                                86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                                5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                                91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                                1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                                Originally posted by phayzer5
                                I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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