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    #31
    I bought a set of 'tamper resistant' torx bits today at Advance Auto for $9 and it had the the right size to remove the ignition switch. As I mentioned before, it literally fell apart with the plastic separating from the metal, so I had only the metal bracket to remove.

    I installed the OEM Ford ignition switch Eric sent me and it worked great. I tightened up the steering column u-joints, but left the trim pieces off for now. I'm going to clean up the trim pieces and maybe re-paint them.

    On to the stereo...

    I mentioned before I had the shared ground system, it's actually 5 terminals at the stereo harness. 4+ for each speaker, 1 ground. The speaker portion of the adapter was wired in, but I had to still connect the power, switched power, and ground to the wires left in the car.

    I used some of the crimp style connectors for these, because I didn't want to try and solder in the front seat. I crimped the three wires together, everything seemed snug, so I reconnected the battery to the car.

    Key on, lights come on, CD player comes to life. Eject the CD the previous owner left in, put mine in, starts playing for 10 seconds and then just powers down.

    Huh?

    Nothing.

    Fuse at the back of the CD player is good. Fuse at the fuse box for 'radio' (15amp) looked good.

    Car started and ran fine, no other power issues...so I don't know why it just died like that.

    Any thing I'm missing?

    ~Adam

    '85 2-Door Crown Victoria
    302 HO, -0.022" E7 Heads, Weiand Dual Plane Intake, Edelbrock 1406 Carb, Mechanical Fuel Pump, HEI Distributor, 180* T-stat, Transgo Shift Kit, HO Governor, Lokar TV/Throttle Cable Setup, B&M Torq Master 2000 RPM Stall Converter, FRPP Trans Cooler, Mustang Shorty Headers, 2.25" Dual Exhaust, Flowtech H-pipe (no converters), Hooker AeroChamber Mufflers, Side-exit Exhaust w/ Chromed 2.5" Tips, '02 PI F/R Shocks, Cut 2004 PI Front Springs in the Rear, PI Rear Sway Bar, 17" SAP Wheels, 245/50/Z17 Michelin Pilot A/S Tires, Cold A/C, Cruise Control, 4.10 Rear End Gears, Trac Lok Diff.
    '04 Crown Victoria LX Sport, '02 Jeep Liberty
    '83 Suzuki GS 1100E Motorcycle[/color]

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      #32
      By chance does it kick the stereo off when the headlights come on?

      Run the ground for the stereo directly to the chassis. Don't use the one in the wiring harness.

      Trust me, I know this stuff, done it before
      1983 Grand Marquis 2Dr Sedan "Mercules"
      Tremec TKO conversion, hydraulic clutch, HURST equipped!

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        #33
        The unit does not even power on anymore...

        I believe my 87 had a ground wire that screwed to the back of my new head unit, but that was premium sound. I can try to make my own ground, but where is the best place to ground? I think there is a ground block under the steering wheel dash side, across from the fuse box.

        '85 2-Door Crown Victoria
        302 HO, -0.022" E7 Heads, Weiand Dual Plane Intake, Edelbrock 1406 Carb, Mechanical Fuel Pump, HEI Distributor, 180* T-stat, Transgo Shift Kit, HO Governor, Lokar TV/Throttle Cable Setup, B&M Torq Master 2000 RPM Stall Converter, FRPP Trans Cooler, Mustang Shorty Headers, 2.25" Dual Exhaust, Flowtech H-pipe (no converters), Hooker AeroChamber Mufflers, Side-exit Exhaust w/ Chromed 2.5" Tips, '02 PI F/R Shocks, Cut 2004 PI Front Springs in the Rear, PI Rear Sway Bar, 17" SAP Wheels, 245/50/Z17 Michelin Pilot A/S Tires, Cold A/C, Cruise Control, 4.10 Rear End Gears, Trac Lok Diff.
        '04 Crown Victoria LX Sport, '02 Jeep Liberty
        '83 Suzuki GS 1100E Motorcycle[/color]

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          #34
          Either that, or there was a metal plate in there somewhere that had a screw already in it...

          At least that was the way my 84 was...
          1983 Grand Marquis 2Dr Sedan "Mercules"
          Tremec TKO conversion, hydraulic clutch, HURST equipped!

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            #35
            My wagon doesn't even have the ground wire hooked up. It was laying there when I pulled the stock radio out...so I just taped it off and left it lay in there when I put the new radio in. :p
            '89 Ford LTD Crown Vic - '92 Ford F-150 Custom -
            '95 Ford Bronco XL -

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              #36
              Wiggle the wires. I bet its just a bad connection.
              1989 Grand Marquis LS
              flat black, 650 double pumper, random cam, hei, stealth intake, Police front springs, Wagon rear, Police rear bar, wagon front ,exploder wheels, 205/60-15 fronts 275/60-15 rears, 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" offroad x pipe, Eclipse front bucket seats, Custom floor shifter, 4.10 gears, aluminum driveshaft and daily driven. 16.77@83mph

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                #37
                Believe me, I've wiggled.

                Tom, your car had premium sound or only 4-speakers? I think the ground wire was for premium only, based on my previous car's setup.

                '85 2-Door Crown Victoria
                302 HO, -0.022" E7 Heads, Weiand Dual Plane Intake, Edelbrock 1406 Carb, Mechanical Fuel Pump, HEI Distributor, 180* T-stat, Transgo Shift Kit, HO Governor, Lokar TV/Throttle Cable Setup, B&M Torq Master 2000 RPM Stall Converter, FRPP Trans Cooler, Mustang Shorty Headers, 2.25" Dual Exhaust, Flowtech H-pipe (no converters), Hooker AeroChamber Mufflers, Side-exit Exhaust w/ Chromed 2.5" Tips, '02 PI F/R Shocks, Cut 2004 PI Front Springs in the Rear, PI Rear Sway Bar, 17" SAP Wheels, 245/50/Z17 Michelin Pilot A/S Tires, Cold A/C, Cruise Control, 4.10 Rear End Gears, Trac Lok Diff.
                '04 Crown Victoria LX Sport, '02 Jeep Liberty
                '83 Suzuki GS 1100E Motorcycle[/color]

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                  #38
                  4 speakers...

                  I hate wiring. Did I ever say that?
                  1983 Grand Marquis 2Dr Sedan "Mercules"
                  Tremec TKO conversion, hydraulic clutch, HURST equipped!

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                    #39
                    If the headunit doesn't even turn on now, go back and check the fuse box. Wiggling the wires and with it not grounded probably blew the radio fuse, it really doesn't take much since its a 15amp fuse for a non-premium sound setup. I would replace the radio fuse with a 30amp fuse also.

                    For the ground wires, I spliced both ground wires (headunit harness and the adapter plug) into one large ground wire (12 gauge wire) and then screwed it into a hole on a plate near the headunit.
                    Current rides - 1991 Ford Thunderbird 3.8 v6 (gas saver/DD) - New Heads/Headgaskets with ARP studs, Air Silencer Delete, 70mm MAF, Plasti-dipped Matte Black with a Silver Metalflake Overlay, Muffler Delete, some LED's, 30.233 MPG for high MPG average!
                    2006 Jeep Wrangler 4WD (fun vehicle/backup DD) - 4.0/6spd - too many mods to list.

                    Associated Panthers:
                    Father's 1994 Ford Crown Victoria - Stock, 45,000 miles.
                    Sold in 2007 - 1987 Mercury Grand Marquis LS "Grandpa Special" 2 door.
                    http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2128327

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                      #40
                      Me too the wiring is bad in my jeep $950 for the new harness. I can start the jeep then POP im melting. as for your car i'd take the wiring out of a newer model 88-90 and try and use what you can out of that cuz we had no probs putting a cd player in the cop car . do you have another car you can test the unit itself if so I'd do that too.
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                        #41
                        The ground wire in my factory wiring harness went bad. The radio just stopped working one day, no ground. I grounded it to the dash and it started working. Do you have +12v to the switched and constant hot still?

                        Your ignition switch had tamper proof torx? Mine had these bizzare rivet/screw things that didn't have any type of useful head on them. It looked like a rivet, but they weren't. I used a tool I have for removing rounded out bolts, its essentially a socket with like an inverse EZ-Out cut inside it. Hammered it on there, and they came right out. The replacement ones in the box were tamper proof tho.
                        86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                        5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                        91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                        1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                        Originally posted by phayzer5
                        I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                          #42
                          Do you have +12v to the switched and constant hot still?
                          Yeah, the yellow and red wires are still there. There is no harness 'plug' for this wire group though, but Crutchfield did give me one. I think the premium sound systems used the same power harness. I just connected the three wires.

                          ~Adam

                          '85 2-Door Crown Victoria
                          302 HO, -0.022" E7 Heads, Weiand Dual Plane Intake, Edelbrock 1406 Carb, Mechanical Fuel Pump, HEI Distributor, 180* T-stat, Transgo Shift Kit, HO Governor, Lokar TV/Throttle Cable Setup, B&M Torq Master 2000 RPM Stall Converter, FRPP Trans Cooler, Mustang Shorty Headers, 2.25" Dual Exhaust, Flowtech H-pipe (no converters), Hooker AeroChamber Mufflers, Side-exit Exhaust w/ Chromed 2.5" Tips, '02 PI F/R Shocks, Cut 2004 PI Front Springs in the Rear, PI Rear Sway Bar, 17" SAP Wheels, 245/50/Z17 Michelin Pilot A/S Tires, Cold A/C, Cruise Control, 4.10 Rear End Gears, Trac Lok Diff.
                          '04 Crown Victoria LX Sport, '02 Jeep Liberty
                          '83 Suzuki GS 1100E Motorcycle[/color]

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                            #43
                            I had tried wiring up my speakers and head unit with the factory premium sound harness. It never worked because the speakers need the - to the head unit to work. So I ditched that setup and ran my own heavy gauge wire to the speakers and grounded the head unit to the dash. Havent had a problem yet except I am clipping my head units amp cause the head unit doesnt put out enough juice to all 4 speakers.

                            2009 Ford F-350 6.4 powerstroke diesel. 1977 Ford F-150 built 300 six, 5 speed trans. 1976 MG MGB roadster, 359w, t5 5 speed. 1996 Kawasaki ninja ZX6R.
                            My rod is glowing, my bead is clean, my middle name is acetylene

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                              #44
                              Mercmarquis: Does your headunit have a set of RCA inputs/outputs? If it does you could hook up all four of your speakers to a small amp and hook it up in the trunk. I did this to a friends car with sony x-plod speakers in a 9c1 caprice using a cheap sony 4 channel amp, might have been 600 watts. No clipping, distortion and the sound quality is amazingly clear at high volumes (50) with lots of bass.

                              It takes the load off the headunit's amp and allows the speakers to run at the wattage they should run at along with extending the life of the speakers and the headunit. Its not hard to install an amp in a panther either, it only took me a few minutes to install all the wiring for my amp including running the power cable through a gromment in the firewall.
                              Current rides - 1991 Ford Thunderbird 3.8 v6 (gas saver/DD) - New Heads/Headgaskets with ARP studs, Air Silencer Delete, 70mm MAF, Plasti-dipped Matte Black with a Silver Metalflake Overlay, Muffler Delete, some LED's, 30.233 MPG for high MPG average!
                              2006 Jeep Wrangler 4WD (fun vehicle/backup DD) - 4.0/6spd - too many mods to list.

                              Associated Panthers:
                              Father's 1994 Ford Crown Victoria - Stock, 45,000 miles.
                              Sold in 2007 - 1987 Mercury Grand Marquis LS "Grandpa Special" 2 door.
                              http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2128327

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                                #45
                                I think it does have the RCA's. Only thing thats keeping me from doing it is I keep buying other parts so now I'm kinda broke.

                                2009 Ford F-350 6.4 powerstroke diesel. 1977 Ford F-150 built 300 six, 5 speed trans. 1976 MG MGB roadster, 359w, t5 5 speed. 1996 Kawasaki ninja ZX6R.
                                My rod is glowing, my bead is clean, my middle name is acetylene

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