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    Hi everyone, I'm new to the forum and getting back to the joys of panther ownership. Years ago I owned a '99 Marquis until my intake manifold replacement apparently caused a fire while driving. I suspect an o-ring on an injector failed when I reinstalled the fuel rail. I was very sad about that, as the car had over 250,000 miles at the time and was doing good.

    Last week I won an absentee $400 bid on an '02 Marquis from a local auction house. Car has a big gash down the passenger side, but everything else is good with it including A/C which is a must in Texas. It's at 212,000 miles and runs smoothly. I'm about to tear into the front suspension as it's soft and a bit loose feeling. Planning to start with shocks, then stabilizer links. I'm looking at the Gabriel Ultra Shock 69675, or the Monroe 33127 - car has regular suspension with coils in the rear, are either of those good, or do folks have other recommendations?

    I need to get a scanner on it as I've got lights on for Brake, ABS, and ABS (code 1-2) but am confident I can get it worked out.
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    Welcome I hope she treats you well.
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    Welcome to the forum. Good luck with your win.
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    Thanks fellas, hoping to do the shocks on Sunday and will start tackling other suspension bits soon. ABS, Brake and Air Bag lights are up there too.

    When the brake light lights, can that be triggered by one of the 2 bulbs in the 3rd brake light being out? Brake light is solid without foot having touched the brake.

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    I would imagine the brake light has more to do with fluid level in the master cylinder than lights out....I am no expert in the "newer" panthers though.
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    Fluid level or parking brake a bit loose/pressed down/contact ring not quite making good contact. There's a small washer that makes contact with two blades coming out of the "switch" when the parking brake is in the full upright position. If that washer is oxidized, it won't make good contact. Scraping the surface a bit will fix that.

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    Fluid level or parking brake a bit loose/pressed down/contact ring not quite making good contact. There's a small washer that makes contact with two blades coming out of the "switch" when the parking brake is in the full upright position. If that washer is oxidized, it won't make good contact. Scraping the surface a bit will fix that.
    OK thanks, fluid level is good and I've cycled the float a couple of times to see if that helps. I'll check the parking brake further - can't see much up there right now. (just realized there's an under dash light there - not working of course.)

    My big news, is I was able to change out the shocks with some Gabriel Ultra's. Fronts went fine, left rear went not too badly - right rear was a total PITA. I had to cut a hole through the trunk as there was not enough room with those hard lines to pull the old nut and washer off, let alone maneuver the new bushing and nut and washing without losing them. Hole is ugly and I'll find a good way to seal it back up. Metal is cut on 3 sides and bent back, I might cut it completely way and fabricate some sort of rubber secured flap. Oh, and the ride is night and day different - I removed Motorcraft shocks, don't know if they were the original ones or not.

    Thanks for the good information guys, I'll keep knocking things off one at a time!
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    Congrats on getting back in a panther and welcome to the forums!

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    Welcome!

    Looks like a great score for $400, even with the mentioned issues.
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    Another quick question, which is better the Haynes or Chilton manual?

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    Get a factory manual. EBay $26 with shipping or so for both volumes: https://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-Ford-W...6fGD4TWbkPgpyw

    Otherwise I prefer a Chilton.
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    +1 I prefer Chiltons over Haynes but a factory manual beats them hands down.

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