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    Default 2002 Grand Marquis LSE!

    First of all let me say that I'm so damn happy I could just cry right now. I've always wanted an LSE mainly because I like the floor mounted shifter concept, I just always thought it looked good in an MGM. Anyways in desperate search of a vehicle I stopped at a local lot today to look at a 65000 mile 2007 Buick Lucerne CXL, my aunt & uncle have one and love it. I test drove it but it just didn't feel right. When we pulled into the lot I saw a 2002 MGM that said 95,000 miles on the windshield but no price. After driving the Buick I asked about it and he said he could do $3000 out the door and asked if I wanted to test drive it, of course I did. So I walk up figuring this is just a nice rust free base model, then I notice the HPP's and LS badging. Oh it's a little nicer I say, I open the door, see the shifter, and about shit. Oh my fucking god it's an LSE, it's the Merc I've been lusting for since I first saw one in 2011. So here I am praying it's not a turd, took it on a drive and played with everything, I'm 99% sure everything is working. It still has the dual exhaust, and air suspension. Hoping this one lasts me 4 years plus like the '88 did, I'm tired of people crashing into me. Sorry for the shitty garage pics, I'll get some better ones in a few days when it warms up. Someday I'm gonna buy me a brochure so I can see what exactly the LSE package included. The car has one tiny door ding on the passenger side, a few small scuffs, and one 1/4" round rust spot on the passenger fender that looks like it's probably a stone chip. The underbody isn't perfect but very clean for and 18 year old ohio car, cleaner than the 03 Town Car was.











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    Nice ride!! Enjoy.

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    Thanks. I miss the '88 the most, but it was getting pretty rough body wise at the time I got rear ended.
    2002 Mercury Grand Marquis LSE - Purchased 02/19/20 at 96,500, current Daily Driver.
    2003 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series - Purchased 07/29/19 at 69,500, sold 2/14/20 at 85,500.
    2001 Lincoln Town Car Executive Series - Purchased 04/18/15 at 108,653, traded in 05/02/16 at 139,000.
    1995 Mercury Grand Marquis GS - Inherited 10/2009 at 105,000 totalled 4/30/10 at 120K, My dumbass fault.
    1988 Mercury Grand Marquis LS - Purchased 6/26/11 at 82,610 totalled 4/16/15 at 137,000, Not my fault.

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    The LSE is nice. Glad you found one!
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    Nice find, I missed buying a LSE by 30 minutes. But I am thankful for the 07 Crown Victoria Sport I was lucky enough to find.
    Like you I love the bucket seats and floor shifter.
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    I'm just glad to finally have a car that isn't white. I don't have a problem with white vehicles some look great. But 3 of the 5 panthers I've owned have been white.
    2002 Mercury Grand Marquis LSE - Purchased 02/19/20 at 96,500, current Daily Driver.
    2003 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series - Purchased 07/29/19 at 69,500, sold 2/14/20 at 85,500.
    2001 Lincoln Town Car Executive Series - Purchased 04/18/15 at 108,653, traded in 05/02/16 at 139,000.
    1995 Mercury Grand Marquis GS - Inherited 10/2009 at 105,000 totalled 4/30/10 at 120K, My dumbass fault.
    1988 Mercury Grand Marquis LS - Purchased 6/26/11 at 82,610 totalled 4/16/15 at 137,000, Not my fault.

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    SCORE!
    I love it when nice things just kinda fall into your lap like that.

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    Awesome. They sure are nice cars. Just something about having a console puts it over the edge/above the column mounted shifter cars.
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    Yes, the console is great. It's also basically a Crown Vic sport in a GM body.

    It should have at least a 3.27, Duals, thicker sway bars, and the higher rate air springs.

    I see you have the steering wheel controls, does it have the digital dash? If so you look to be hard loaded.
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    One thing I found out about my CV sport the cup holders are at different heights so two large take out drinks can fit side by side, if they were at the same height like most cup holders the lids would push against each other not providing a good fit for both drinks.
    2007 Ford Crown Victoria LX Sport

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    Quote Originally Posted by 87gtVIC View Post
    Awesome. They sure are nice cars. Just something about having a console puts it over the edge/above the column mounted shifter cars.
    I have always been more of a console fan than a column shifter guy, it makes for a nice hand rest while your using the arm rest.
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    2003 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series - Purchased 07/29/19 at 69,500, sold 2/14/20 at 85,500.
    2001 Lincoln Town Car Executive Series - Purchased 04/18/15 at 108,653, traded in 05/02/16 at 139,000.
    1995 Mercury Grand Marquis GS - Inherited 10/2009 at 105,000 totalled 4/30/10 at 120K, My dumbass fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaOutlaw1969 View Post
    One thing I found out about my CV sport the cup holders are at different heights so two large take out drinks can fit side by side, if they were at the same height like most cup holders the lids would push against each other not providing a good fit for both drinks.
    I kind of wondered about that, they seems awful close together. I imagine they would be like the CV cup holders, I'm sure it won't be long until I find out. The weather still hasn't allowed me to get decent photos. Maybe tomorrow.
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    2003 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series - Purchased 07/29/19 at 69,500, sold 2/14/20 at 85,500.
    2001 Lincoln Town Car Executive Series - Purchased 04/18/15 at 108,653, traded in 05/02/16 at 139,000.
    1995 Mercury Grand Marquis GS - Inherited 10/2009 at 105,000 totalled 4/30/10 at 120K, My dumbass fault.
    1988 Mercury Grand Marquis LS - Purchased 6/26/11 at 82,610 totalled 4/16/15 at 137,000, Not my fault.

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    so now that you've driven both of the front suspensions basically back to back, what do you think of it? I have my impressions, but I'm aware that they don't tend to jive with what most folks have to say on the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjc78 View Post
    I see you have the steering wheel controls, does it have the digital dash? If so you look to be hard loaded.
    LSE/Sports never got a digital dash. You could add it but then you need a digital dash harness from a donor car.
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    I knew a Vic Sport wasn't available with digital, but I thought the LSE was. I know LS HPPs had it available so I assumed the LSE could as well. What they should have done in 03+ was put in the Marauder cluster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    so now that you've driven both of the front suspensions basically back to back, what do you think of it? I have my impressions, but I'm aware that they don't tend to jive with what most folks have to say on the matter.
    I’m not terribly fond of the rack and pinion setup in the 03+, it just feels like the steering is too heavy. Also at only 70,000 miles the Lincoln had a decent sized dead spot. So of you were going straight it took a decent degree of wheel turn to correct any errors.

    Plus it may just be in my head but I feel like both this car and the ‘01 Town Car I had ride smoother than the ‘03+. The only negative is the rear shock mounting position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjc78 View Post
    I knew a Vic Sport wasn't available with digital, but I thought the LSE was. I know LS HPPs had it available so I assumed the LSE could as well. What they should have done in 03+ was put in the Marauder cluster.
    I could’ve sworn I saw something about the digi dash being optional on the LSE even though I don’t have it. I find it interesting that the Grand Marquis even the 95 I had has more gauges than a town car. Even though they’re practically gauge-like dummy lights from what I’ve read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mercurygm88 View Post
    I could’ve sworn I saw something about the digi dash being optional on the LSE even though I don’t have it.
    CV/GM LX/LS HPP could have a digital dash. Sport/LSE's no digital dash. Sport package lasted a little longer then the LSE. Think the last year of the LSE was 2005. Coincidentally the last year for the digital dash was 2005.

    2006 brought the boring 2 gauge analog display that was shared between the CV/GM/TC and had only minor difference in colors/fonts and either just a little LCD for the mileage or a info center in the middle of the cluster.

    2001 was when steering wheel controls could be had on either the CV/GM and stopped in 2009? till 2011 though it can be added if you get the appropiate steering wheel control button pods and a wire harness from a TC with the steering controls.
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    So I got a code P0125 the other day. “Insufficient coolant temperature for closed loop fuel control.” I reset it in case it was a fluke and it came back. I have plenty of heat so I figured it was the engine coolant temp sensor. The temp gauge barely moves so that made sense as opposed to the thermostat.

    I bought what autozone said was the engine coolant temp sensor but the thing on the passenger side of the intake manifold looks quite different. First of all it doesn’t have a round plug it’s more square, and it takes a smaller wrench than what I bought.

    Now if I remember right from my ‘95 there’s one sensor for the temp gauge and another for the ECM. I thought the one for the gauge just had a single wire plug and the one for the ECM had the round plug. Though I’m sure something could have changed between ‘95 and ‘02

    This is all the parts store guys could find in their system.




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    Not the right sensor. Ask for an equivalent of a motorcraft SW5174
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