Engine Plan's for My 2 dr

[Spaz]

chrysler offered the 340 LA series smallblock with 6-pack carburation.
the pontiac system used the center carb as the primary and the outer carbs were vacuum operated secondaries

[86GmLsCoupe]

BTW, Dave84, the tripower idea is awesome. Definitely plenty nostaligic. It should be really nice.

I agree, it's definitely not something you find often these days and it should get the car moving very well. I hope it works out for you, I'd love to see a Tri Power Merc.

[Grand Marquis GT]

Cool!

At least I like the direction you're going with UNDER the hood

Oh, and I love gear drives, esp noisy ones!!

[Pirate]

I am far from infallible, but the last 3x2v setup Ford had was on the '63 406. The early 427s were either Q code 4V or R code 8V. The later ones were W code 4V as the 428 took over the Q code designation.

Ditto. The 427 never had a 3x2. However, that didn't keep people from tossing them onto various 427's and 428's....

Tri-power on a 302? Somebody (Pony power?) has a new complete tri-power setup using stock motorcraft 2-barrels for a 289-302...I just can't remember who has it...otherwise, Blue Thunder to the rescue...
Price? $1500 and up....

[SLYDAWG]

Tri power

"Don't forget the Ford 390, 406 and 427, the Chevy 427, and the Pontiac 455."

You forgot the 352 tri power in 1960, also the 57/58 Olds J2s, and the 400ci 442 tri power in 66, and the sb 340 tri power of the early 70s, and the fabled 348s.

The Pontiac 455 never came with tri power, only a Q-jet.
The much earlier 370 and 389s were avail. with tri power.
Back in the 60s, E/SA National Record was held by a 58 Pontiac Chieftain 2dr sedan with the 370/tri power/4 speed hydro.

"There was no Ford 427 6 pack. 4V or 2x4V."

Many years ago, I met Gregg Donahue, the famed FORD expert and restorer. He had, what I thought was the nicest 64 Galaxie I ever saw, 4 sale. It was a completely original 390/TRI POWER/340hp/4 speed. It still had the original owners manual and in the owners manual it had a reference to the 'optional' tri power on the 390 AND the 427 engines. Even tho, at that time, Gregg had never seen a 427 tripower, and I have never seen one, the owners manual made reference to it.
I have since seen, and talked with a few others that have also seen and are familiar with, the 390 tri power FE engine of 1964. In fact, last nite was at a car show where a guy had an original drivetrain, restored 64 Mercury 4dr sedan Breezeway with a 390/tripower/4 speed combo, so I know the 390 tri power engine existed in 64.
Like many others, I have seen several 427/410 and 427/425 Q and R code engines. Still have yet to see a factory 427 tri power.

[P72Ford]

"Don't forget the Ford 390, 406 and 427, the Chevy 427, and the Pontiac 455."

You forgot the 352 tri power in 1960, also the 57/58 Olds J2s, and the 400ci 442 tri power in 66, and the sb 340 tri power of the early 70s, and the fabled 348s.

The Pontiac 455 never came with tri power, only a Q-jet.

You guys are forgetting the J2 option on late 50's Oldmobiles. Those were 3X2, as were a plethora of GTO's w/ the 389 from '64-'66. To my knowledge, there were no tri power 455's. There were some very rare '66 Oldsmobiles with a tri power too.

Note: "Tri power" is what my Dad calls anything with a 3 2 barrels...

Hmmmm

[Tiggie]

Many years ago, I met Gregg Donahue, the famed FORD expert and restorer. He had, what I thought was the nicest 64 Galaxie I ever saw, 4 sale. It was a completely original 390/TRI POWER/340hp/4 speed. It still had the original owners manual and in the owners manual it had a reference to the 'optional' tri power on the 390 AND the 427 engines. Even tho, at that time, Gregg had never seen a 427 tripower, and I have never seen one, the owners manual made reference to it.
I have since seen, and talked with a few others that have also seen and are familiar with, the 390 tri power FE engine of 1964. In fact, last nite was at a car show where a guy had an original drivetrain, restored 64 Mercury 4dr sedan Breezeway with a 390/tripower/4 speed combo, so I know the 390 tri power engine existed in 64.
Like many others, I have seen several 427/410 and 427/425 Q and R code engines. Still have yet to see a factory 427 tri power.

The only 390's available in '64 were both 4-bbls, The 300 horse Z-code and the 330 horse P-code. Indeed the owners manual may mention it, as it was an over the counter option, possibly dealer installed.
The 390HP 3X2 was a one-year only item (1961). With 401hp, it was only four horses short of the 406. It used cast iron headers and a solid lifter cam. A 375 horse was also available, using a 4-bbl instead of the tripower.
The 390 3X2 didn't stop in '61, it was used in T-Birds until '63 and designated an M-Code. It was basically a regular Z-Code 390 with the added induction, no special cam or headers. It was rated at 340hp.

[Mercracer]

Many years ago, I met Gregg Donahue, the famed FORD expert and restorer. He had, what I thought was the nicest 64 Galaxie I ever saw, 4 sale. It was a completely original 390/TRI POWER/340hp/4 speed. It still had the original owners manual and in the owners manual it had a reference to the 'optional' tri power on the 390 AND the 427 engines. Even tho, at that time, Gregg had never seen a 427 tripower, and I have never seen one, the owners manual made reference to it.

I can show you a mountain of literature which refers to the 427 option for Mustangs and Cyclones. You can even find mention of capscrew rods in a 429SCJ and even a Boss 302 option for 1971. The reality is that Ford never went through with their plans to do so. Not a single production example ever came off of the assembly line. Owners' manuals and sales literature is at best an unreliable source for Ford production option information.

[Mercracer]

You forgot the 352 tri power in 1960, .

There was no 352 6V. The HiPo 352 was a single 4V.

[Mercracer]

The 390 3X2 didn't stop in '61, it was used in T-Birds until '63 and designated an M-Code. It was basically a regular Z-Code 390 with the added induction, no special cam or headers. It was rated at 340hp.

The HP, 6V and Police 390 from 1961 to 1963 got cast iron headers....

[Tiggie]

The HP, 6V and Police 390 from 1961 to 1963 got cast iron headers....

The M-Code in the T-Bird got the cast iron headers? I wasn't aware of that, but I don't claim to be a T-Bird expert by any means.

[Dave84]

ok thaught ide might as well post my engine plans for the 2 dr.
ill start with a list of differnt parts im going to get, or alredy have for it,
six pack intake, if i can find one cheap enough, here is a pic i found on google

mustang shorty headers, I alredy have them
i have a set of 351 DO0E heads i rebuilding for it, (port polish, new valves, guides, etc... havent touched them yet tho.)
Gear Drive, I know not many people like gear drives but meh... i do
new bearings,
new oil pump, Whats the best oil pump and shaft?
rollar rockers,
aftermarket cam, havent decided what cam to use yet tho..
I figure the 6 pack will make it even more nistalgic looking, just have to figure out the TV rod thing.
im probley going to pain the engine in a vintage ford colour, maybie the green the used on the old flathead v8's

Damn, wish I thought of that.

[Dave84]

Oh and make sure you use a *HIGH VOLUME OIL PUMP* cuz if you don't, your just lookin for trouble.

[P72Ford]

The HP, 6V and Police 390 from 1961 to 1963 got cast iron headers....

I saw a set of those at The Carlisle All Ford Nat'ls in 2006. They were $995. They were nice mint pieces though. My Dad had a set back in the 80's (off of a 63 Galaxie); he deemed them worthless and threw them out.

[Mercracer]

The coolest looking headers I ever saw were from a W code 427 Cougar GTE. They look like flattened out triangles.