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    Carbed H.O Conv.?

    I have read Mike (Mr.LTD)'s post on a H.O Conversion parts list for a EFI/FI setup, what all is needed other than the E7 Heads, the rest was for the EFI stuff....

    Also, what all can I do to boost the torque on the vic, stock 351w, 2bbl....I know a new camshaft would do SOME of the work, but is there anything ELSE that can be done? As I said, I am looking for quick ways to boost the torque....

    The parts I am in the process of getting is:

    e7 heads
    Ford Racing Aluminum Intake Manifold
    BBK Shorty Mustang headers
    Summit Racing X-pipe
    New Full 2.5" exhaust
    Summit Racing Camshaft 204*/214*-1,500-4,000rpm
    A Short Throw Shift Kit

    And a few other things I can't think of at this time, any and all info, insight or advice is appreciated greatly....
    sigpic1991 Crown Vic 351w 5.8L
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    wrong intake...
    **1976 Ford F-150 4WD: 360, 4 spd, 3.50s, factory A/C, 4" lift, Bilsteins, US Indy Mags, 35s Cruiser​
    **2004 F-150 XLT 4WD RCLB: 4.6/ 4R70, 3.55, 90K Daily Driver​
    **2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302: 5.0/ 6 spd/ 3.73s, 20K Cruiser
    **2012 Harley Davidson Wide Glide (FXDWG):103/ Cobra Speedsters/ Cosmetics, 9K Poseur HD Rider

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      #3
      still sitting here with a 351w Edelbrock Performer intake for sale
      Scars are tatoos of the fearless

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        #4
        Originally posted by 351wcrayz View Post
        Also, what all can I do to boost the torque on the vic, stock 351w, 2bbl....I know a new camshaft would do SOME of the work, but is there anything ELSE that can be done? As I said, I am looking for quick ways to boost the torque....

        The parts I am in the process of getting is:

        e7 heads
        Ford Racing Aluminum Intake Manifold
        BBK Shorty Mustang headers
        Summit Racing X-pipe
        New Full 2.5" exhaust
        Summit Racing Camshaft 204*/214*-1,500-4,000rpm
        ....
        Why would you buy a Performer RPM from FRPP? You can just pick one up used on Ebay for far less.....

        I looked in the current catalog and they no longer list the RPM for a 351W. They currently list it for 302 and they only list the Victor Jr for 351W.
        Last edited by Mercracer; 11-21-2007, 11:32 AM.

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          #5
          What's the "Short Throw Shift Kit"?

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            #6
            when i built natehawks car, the motorsport 351w intake was the cheapest brandy new intake available

            1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
            2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
            1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
            1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
            2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
            1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

            please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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              #7
              Originally posted by torquelover View Post
              What's the "Short Throw Shift Kit"?
              cut the shifter handle to 3" so you can shift with handcuffs and a chain steering wheel?

              1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
              2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
              1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
              1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
              2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
              1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

              please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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                #8
                Buy turbo's intake manifold. It's good for what you want to use.
                1983 Grand Marquis 2Dr Sedan "Mercules"
                Tremec TKO conversion, hydraulic clutch, HURST equipped!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by lincolnmania View Post
                  when i built natehawks car, the motorsport 351w intake was the cheapest brandy new intake available

                  You're talking about the RPM? Does FRPP still carry them? I didn't see them in the catalog...

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                    #10
                    If we are looking to boost torque, you need to switch that exhaust plan to a basic 2 1/4" dual exhaust, with a basic H-pipe.

                    Heads? Get a set of 54CC 1964-1967 289 heads, or 1968 302 4V heads (ONLY USE THE 4-BARREL VERSION), and have the head bolt holes drilled to 1/2 (from 7/16th's). You could opt for some port work...but this will bump compression up to around 9.5:1 compression...without losing any port flow velocity. This is going to be the best head for bumping torque up, without going to an aftermarket head, and still be able to use a regular 302/351W exhaust header.

                    Make sure to perform a leakdown test before doing any work to the car...

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                      #11
                      Why would you use the intake that runs from 1500-6500 when the cam is done at 4000? The regular performer is idle to 5500, no? Why mess with the FRPP/ RPM?
                      **1976 Ford F-150 4WD: 360, 4 spd, 3.50s, factory A/C, 4" lift, Bilsteins, US Indy Mags, 35s Cruiser​
                      **2004 F-150 XLT 4WD RCLB: 4.6/ 4R70, 3.55, 90K Daily Driver​
                      **2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302: 5.0/ 6 spd/ 3.73s, 20K Cruiser
                      **2012 Harley Davidson Wide Glide (FXDWG):103/ Cobra Speedsters/ Cosmetics, 9K Poseur HD Rider

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                        #12
                        Performers suck little tiny puppy balls. The RPM is a real intake. You do not loose any significant torque at any practical RPM range with a RPM. The RPM will give you performance potential far beyond the Performer even at lower RPMs. Edelbrock lists RPM range for the RPM 1500-6500. Even at 1400 it should be making more torque than the Performer. Edelbrock does a good job in maintaining mixture velocity with the RPM compared to the Performer while having a larger cross section in the runners.
                        Last edited by Mercracer; 11-21-2007, 06:42 PM.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by torquelover View Post
                          What's the "Short Throw Shift Kit"?
                          That'd be for a manual transmission, so that the shifts are faster. There's no use for such a devise in an automatic.
                          88 Town Car (wrecked, for sale)
                          Walker OEM duals with muffler deletes

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mercracer View Post
                            Performers suck little tiny puppy balls. The RPM is a real intake. You do not loose any significant torque at any practical RPM range with a RPM. The RPM will give you performance potential far beyond the Performer even at lower RPMs. Edelbrock lists RPM range for the RPM 1500-6500. Even at 1400 it should be making more torque than the Performer. Edelbrock does a good job in maintaining mixture velocity with the RPM compared to the Performer while having a larger cross section in the runners.
                            Good to know. What do you think about the Weiand Stealth?

                            I don't like the quality of Edelbrock stuff, personally. Any other good brands?
                            **1976 Ford F-150 4WD: 360, 4 spd, 3.50s, factory A/C, 4" lift, Bilsteins, US Indy Mags, 35s Cruiser​
                            **2004 F-150 XLT 4WD RCLB: 4.6/ 4R70, 3.55, 90K Daily Driver​
                            **2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302: 5.0/ 6 spd/ 3.73s, 20K Cruiser
                            **2012 Harley Davidson Wide Glide (FXDWG):103/ Cobra Speedsters/ Cosmetics, 9K Poseur HD Rider

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                              #15
                              I like the Stealth better than the Performer RPM but they are a couple of more bucks new and harder to find used. The Offy 360 (not the evil dual port) is another good one. For a 302, the Blue Thunder is excelente.......

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