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    I just pulled my motor out

    Hey everyone I just pulled the motor out of Anabelle. It went pretty smoothly and I got the motor on an engine stand. The only thing I did incorrectly was neglect to drain the torque converter and the tranny, and a ton of fluid leaked out all over the floor. I'm going to go ahead and take the block to a shop to see what kind of shape its in. Anything I should do while the engine is out?
    1989 Lincoln Town Car - "Anabelle" - Original block, .030 over with SpeedPro pistons, rods fitted with ARP hardware, FRPP +volume oil pump, GT-40 3bar heads, Crane 1.72 rockers, 89' Fox cam, 93' Cobra lower intake, Explorer upper and 65mm TB, 93' Lightning EGR spacer, K&N intake kit from a 4.0L Ranger, 19lb/hr injectors w/ 87 Mark VII ECM, cat/smog deletes, Big Brake conversion, 3.55 K-Code Trac-Lok/Disc brake rear axle, CVPI LCA's w/1" sway bar in rear, wagon front sway bar, BBK 2.5" off-road H-Pipe, Flowmaster super 40s, HPP wheels, 3G alternator w/LMR.com wiring kit, gear reduction starter conversion, Best 1/4 time: 16.0 @ 85mph.

    #2
    Degrease the engine bay, and inspect the brake lines at the prop valve since they'll be a bit easier to see without the motor in the way. Check out the fuel lines, especially where it dissapears between body and frame under the A pillar, the line likes to rot out right there. If you're up to it, it wouldn't be a bad idea to do the motor mounts, though fair warning, they are kind of a pain in the ass with the suspension in place. You'll need good flex joints and patience to get them out.


    I've never drained a trans when pulling the motor. Just have to keep a floor jack under it to keep it from dropping and dumping fluid. It hangs from the shift linkage and bends it otherwise. Been there, done that. If you need to support it and can't leave your jack under the trans, tale a 2x4 and lay it across the fender. Use some rope through the bellhouse bolt holes to tie it up to the 2x4. Rags under the 2x4 where it sits on the fenders are also a good idea.
    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

    Originally posted by phayzer5
    I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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      #3
      Cool, I will do those things. I was looking at a forged rotating assembly and I found this:


      will this fit with no complications as far as bore/stroke/compression ratio goes? Also will this make more power than the stock lo-po pistons? or are the compression ratios pretty much the same?
      Last edited by 89LincolnTWNcar; 05-19-2008, 01:08 AM.
      1989 Lincoln Town Car - "Anabelle" - Original block, .030 over with SpeedPro pistons, rods fitted with ARP hardware, FRPP +volume oil pump, GT-40 3bar heads, Crane 1.72 rockers, 89' Fox cam, 93' Cobra lower intake, Explorer upper and 65mm TB, 93' Lightning EGR spacer, K&N intake kit from a 4.0L Ranger, 19lb/hr injectors w/ 87 Mark VII ECM, cat/smog deletes, Big Brake conversion, 3.55 K-Code Trac-Lok/Disc brake rear axle, CVPI LCA's w/1" sway bar in rear, wagon front sway bar, BBK 2.5" off-road H-Pipe, Flowmaster super 40s, HPP wheels, 3G alternator w/LMR.com wiring kit, gear reduction starter conversion, Best 1/4 time: 16.0 @ 85mph.

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        #4
        Heres some pictures!





        That boom was BARELY long enough on the 1/2 ton position, but I made it work.
        1989 Lincoln Town Car - "Anabelle" - Original block, .030 over with SpeedPro pistons, rods fitted with ARP hardware, FRPP +volume oil pump, GT-40 3bar heads, Crane 1.72 rockers, 89' Fox cam, 93' Cobra lower intake, Explorer upper and 65mm TB, 93' Lightning EGR spacer, K&N intake kit from a 4.0L Ranger, 19lb/hr injectors w/ 87 Mark VII ECM, cat/smog deletes, Big Brake conversion, 3.55 K-Code Trac-Lok/Disc brake rear axle, CVPI LCA's w/1" sway bar in rear, wagon front sway bar, BBK 2.5" off-road H-Pipe, Flowmaster super 40s, HPP wheels, 3G alternator w/LMR.com wiring kit, gear reduction starter conversion, Best 1/4 time: 16.0 @ 85mph.

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          #5
          should have unbolted the torque convertor from the flexplate mang
          do not try to install it that way!!!

          1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
          2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
          1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
          1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
          2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
          1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

          please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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            #6
            Replace the front trans seal while its out just in case it got damaged, didn't know you pulled the converter with the motor. Definitely don't install it that way. Its nearly a guarantee that it won't seat properly and the transmission will self destruct as a result.


            Also, a little trick with the transmission input shaft. Grind an X on the end of the shaft that goes into the transmission. It helps keep the planetary gears from starving for lube. http://www.clickclickracing.com/foru...ead.php?t=2444 for pics. This is the smaller center shaft that will slide right out of the transmission.
            Last edited by gadget73; 05-19-2008, 03:04 AM.
            86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
            5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

            91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

            1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

            Originally posted by phayzer5
            I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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              #7
              Good things to know, thanks guys. I guess it is possible to bolt those four nuts that attach the converter to the flexplate with the converter installed then, but I had to use an impact to remove then they were soo tight.

              Do you all think I can swap the crank, pistons and rods by myself for the first time? or should I have a shop do some of the work. What is the most difficult part of redoing the bottom end?
              1989 Lincoln Town Car - "Anabelle" - Original block, .030 over with SpeedPro pistons, rods fitted with ARP hardware, FRPP +volume oil pump, GT-40 3bar heads, Crane 1.72 rockers, 89' Fox cam, 93' Cobra lower intake, Explorer upper and 65mm TB, 93' Lightning EGR spacer, K&N intake kit from a 4.0L Ranger, 19lb/hr injectors w/ 87 Mark VII ECM, cat/smog deletes, Big Brake conversion, 3.55 K-Code Trac-Lok/Disc brake rear axle, CVPI LCA's w/1" sway bar in rear, wagon front sway bar, BBK 2.5" off-road H-Pipe, Flowmaster super 40s, HPP wheels, 3G alternator w/LMR.com wiring kit, gear reduction starter conversion, Best 1/4 time: 16.0 @ 85mph.

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                #8
                the shop will have to bore the block, and should do a line bore. The bottom end assembly process isn't too difficult if you do it right and measure everything 10 times...

                Forged steel crank? just a tad of an overkill, unless you are also buying a Dart or Boss block and some really nice flowing heads.
                Builder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons

                Busy maintaining a fleet of Fords

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                  #9
                  i was lucky to have an A-frame with electric 1-ton to do the swap in my wagon. i also disconeccted the torque convereter from the fly-wheel when the motor was still in the car...what are your plans for the engine?

                  1981 Mercury Marquis Brougham 2-Door 302/ 5-speed -special blend (GMGT)
                  1987 Lincoln Mark VII 5-speed (Errand runner)
                  1989 Mercury Grand Marquis (Base Runner)
                  2007 Lincoln Town Car Signature Limited (Hustlyn)
                  2011 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor (Down with O.P.P)

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                    #10
                    A forged rotating assy will accelerate slower than a cast one. Higher rotating mass robs power. Forged increases your durability at high RPM/Power levels. 3-400HP is a waste for a forged crank. Cast steel will get the job done for a 500HP motor. Put the money into your heads, not your crank.

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                      #11
                      oh ok, then I will stick with the cast crank, are the rods good for 3-400 horsepower? I want to run a 512 lift 288dur cam or F303 cam, is that a good choice? I'm open for all suggestions on cam/piston combinations. I want that bumpity bump sound and some low end grunt, with a little more aggression then the stock .444 mustang cam.
                      1989 Lincoln Town Car - "Anabelle" - Original block, .030 over with SpeedPro pistons, rods fitted with ARP hardware, FRPP +volume oil pump, GT-40 3bar heads, Crane 1.72 rockers, 89' Fox cam, 93' Cobra lower intake, Explorer upper and 65mm TB, 93' Lightning EGR spacer, K&N intake kit from a 4.0L Ranger, 19lb/hr injectors w/ 87 Mark VII ECM, cat/smog deletes, Big Brake conversion, 3.55 K-Code Trac-Lok/Disc brake rear axle, CVPI LCA's w/1" sway bar in rear, wagon front sway bar, BBK 2.5" off-road H-Pipe, Flowmaster super 40s, HPP wheels, 3G alternator w/LMR.com wiring kit, gear reduction starter conversion, Best 1/4 time: 16.0 @ 85mph.

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                        #12
                        bumpity bump and low end grunt don't really go together.

                        Niether of those cams look good for heavy cars. I'm running a XE264 cam. it's 264/270 and 512/512. With 3.73's, a 2400 stall converter, and wide ratio the car will barely squeek the tires on a launch. And XE258 would work well or a explorer cam works well in a towncar.

                        If you want to run a big cam, be prepared to get a 2800 or so stall converter and 3.73 or lower gears.
                        Builder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons

                        Busy maintaining a fleet of Fords

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                          #13
                          what is the stock converter's rating? My trans is also just a stock AOD and I have 3.08 or 3.27 gears. How does this setup sound?
                          -2800-3200 stall
                          -3.73 gears
                          -AOD
                          -F303 cam
                          -Ported E7's
                          -Cobra intakes
                          -65mm TB
                          -Lightning EGR
                          -Mustang pistons with valve reliefs
                          -19lb injectors
                          -Mark VII EEC
                          1989 Lincoln Town Car - "Anabelle" - Original block, .030 over with SpeedPro pistons, rods fitted with ARP hardware, FRPP +volume oil pump, GT-40 3bar heads, Crane 1.72 rockers, 89' Fox cam, 93' Cobra lower intake, Explorer upper and 65mm TB, 93' Lightning EGR spacer, K&N intake kit from a 4.0L Ranger, 19lb/hr injectors w/ 87 Mark VII ECM, cat/smog deletes, Big Brake conversion, 3.55 K-Code Trac-Lok/Disc brake rear axle, CVPI LCA's w/1" sway bar in rear, wagon front sway bar, BBK 2.5" off-road H-Pipe, Flowmaster super 40s, HPP wheels, 3G alternator w/LMR.com wiring kit, gear reduction starter conversion, Best 1/4 time: 16.0 @ 85mph.

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                            #14
                            Cobra intake won't work without a lot of modifications due to the integral EGR spacer. Gt40, Explorer, or one of those china Typhoon intakes.

                            That setup should be OK. Not to sure how well the F cam will work with untuned speed density though.
                            Builder/Owner of Badass Panther Wagons

                            Busy maintaining a fleet of Fords

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                              #15
                              Ahh crap, I am also running speed density, so I'd need a chip for anything but the stock mustang cam right?
                              1989 Lincoln Town Car - "Anabelle" - Original block, .030 over with SpeedPro pistons, rods fitted with ARP hardware, FRPP +volume oil pump, GT-40 3bar heads, Crane 1.72 rockers, 89' Fox cam, 93' Cobra lower intake, Explorer upper and 65mm TB, 93' Lightning EGR spacer, K&N intake kit from a 4.0L Ranger, 19lb/hr injectors w/ 87 Mark VII ECM, cat/smog deletes, Big Brake conversion, 3.55 K-Code Trac-Lok/Disc brake rear axle, CVPI LCA's w/1" sway bar in rear, wagon front sway bar, BBK 2.5" off-road H-Pipe, Flowmaster super 40s, HPP wheels, 3G alternator w/LMR.com wiring kit, gear reduction starter conversion, Best 1/4 time: 16.0 @ 85mph.

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