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    67 ltd WONT START!!!

    DAMN!!! i just replaced the points (properly gapped), condenser on the distributor. the car ran like a champ! now it sits.. the car is parked on a hill, it had little or no gas in it. i added 3 gallons of gas. i tried to start the car. it would go rurururururu and wouldnt turn over and start. i gave the gas pedal a slight push and tried to start it. it almost started but didnt. i thought the battery was the culprit b/c it was so old, i changed the battery. i turned the key and it started and then stopped. now i when i turn the key i hear "tick tick tick tick tick" maybe i wrecked the starter trying to turn it on so many times?! maybe i flooded it?! im all out of ideas.
    if its the start where would that might located?!
    any help would be greatfull
    thanks fellas
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    #2
    The "ticky" sound from the starter is the solenoid engaging the gear, but it seems like you're out of battery juice (again) to spin the thing - charge up the battery good, and attempt starting. Once car is running measure voltage at the battery, should be at least 13 volts, preferably around 14.

    By the way, aren't you supposed to pump the throttle a few times before even turning the key? I always did this with my old Chev (Holley carb), floor the pedal and set the choke (manual choke) then push pedal to floor two more times and hit the start, she fired up every single time even after sitting under a foot of snow for about a month!

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      #3
      also if it sat for a while, the carb fuel bowl can be completly empty and just turning the engine over isent always enough. try finding the vent on the carb and by using a gas bottle, fill the carb up with fuel and that should be enough time to get the fuel flowing a gain. i do this to my boat every spring when i summerize it.

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        #4
        Yeah, I'm guessing since you didn't pump the pedal a couple of times, it had nothing to burn in order to get started. As Ivan mentioned, pumping the pedal sets the choke, and also uses a part of the carburetor called the accelerator pump to squirt a little bit of fuel into the engine to help it start. Pump it a few times and it'll probably start right up, provided you charge your battery back up again. And if that doesn't work, just dump a little bit of gas right down the carburetor bowls and it should take right off.

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          #5
          its a carb mang, gotta pump the pedal a couple times. Most carb cars are two pump chumps, but thats not a bad thing in this case.
          86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
          5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

          91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

          1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

          Originally posted by phayzer5
          I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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            #6
            thanks mangs.
            carbs.. still learning lol
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              #7
              charge the battery.......pump the pedal a few times then try to start it.......if it dont start check for spark.......if no spark, you got junk chinese points

              1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
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                #8
                HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

                THE POINTS!! I REAJUSTED THE POINTS!! SHE LIVES!!!! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
                i got the car to run with start up fluid, it ran then i made a u turn to go down the hill i park my cars at. the car died and i lost all power. long story short i ended up facing oncoming traffic. a cop came by and helped me out. the cop told me he owns a 66 galaxie with a 289 motor. he told me to adjust the points and BAM! it started right up!! i adjusted the idle and it runs great!

                gas was the problem facing up hill then spark when facing down hill.
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                  #9
                  lol, well good thing you now know what her limitations are, haha!

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                    #10
                    Ah breaker points. Have you purchased and learned to operate a dwell-tach yet? Does the distributor on that allow on the fly dwell adjustments, or is it just a matter of tweaking the gap to get the right dwell?

                    PS, if you have NFC what I'm talking about, its time to learn the old school ignition systems

                    For what its worth, I had breaker points in my Beetle for about a month, then replaced that garbage with a Pertronix ignitor kit. Its a drop-in solid state electronic ignition thing that goes right in the stock distributor and plugs into the stock coil. Works great, and no points to meddle with. I had the points, a screwdriver and a matchbook in the glovebox for 4 years just in case and never once touched them.
                    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                    Originally posted by phayzer5
                    I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
                      Ah breaker points. Have you purchased and learned to operate a dwell-tach yet? Does the distributor on that allow on the fly dwell adjustments, or is it just a matter of tweaking the gap to get the right dwell?

                      PS, if you have NFC what I'm talking about, its time to learn the old school ignition systems

                      For what its worth, I had breaker points in my Beetle for about a month, then replaced that garbage with a Pertronix ignitor kit. Its a drop-in solid state electronic ignition thing that goes right in the stock distributor and plugs into the stock coil. Works great, and no points to meddle with. I had the points, a screwdriver and a matchbook in the glovebox for 4 years just in case and never once touched them.

                      to tell you the truth i dont really know about the dwells. im really new at this. the only thing that i know is that the car has powersteering, brake booster and an elctronic choke, which was very odd. nice though. i only know these b/c the other galaxies that i test drove didnt have them.

                      yes, im going to buy a pertronix ignitor kit. the cop that helped me told me its definately worth the money.
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                        #12
                        dwell is basically a fancier way of fine tuning the point gap. Its the amount of time in crankshaft degrees that the points are closed. Theres a spec in the book for it, and you check it with a dwell meter. Or, you just use a matchbook and gap the points and go down the road.
                        86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                        5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                        91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                        1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                        Originally posted by phayzer5
                        I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
                          PS, if you have NFC what I'm talking about, it's time to go Duraspark and never look back
                          Fixed that.
                          2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!

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                            #14
                            Or that. Points suck and they went away for good reason.
                            86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                            5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                            91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                            1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                            Originally posted by phayzer5
                            I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                              #15
                              but they can survive an EMP, whereas Duraspart and EFI can't :p

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