Yes, trying SEFI out. I have also wanted to go to a carb, but this is more practical at the moment and has more torque and gas mileage is better. Everything is coming out of the car pretty much. The engine is complete, oil pan to the airbox. Only concerns I have is hooking up the transmission, because the gear selector was different (I'm not sure, I thought someone on here said that in a different thread). And the fuel pump change over, or the wires at least; I'm a little unsure about that.
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85' Crown Vic 2dr. Small tire stock block grudge car.
09’ CTS-V family car making over 700whp with ease.
79’ f350 427 ls7 swapped with th400. Prerunner setup
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Fuel pump doesn't need changed, also you shouldn't need to swap the drive shaft. Definitely make sure you're using the 87 distributor on the 87 motor, at least the gear, or you'll only make it about 1000 miles. Get the tv cable and the bracket or two that goes with it and the new linkage will hook up to the trans fine. If you want to keep cruise, grab the 87's cruise servo, different cable on it. There is some wiring that you will need to change or splice into so it'd be a good idea to get an evtm manual for both your 85 and an 87, makes it a lot easier to track things down. You can usually find them pretty cheap on ebay, heres an 87 one: clicky
oh, and you will need to either cut the fuel lines and splice in some high pressure rubber fuel line, or get at least the front portion of the fuel lines from the 87.
1984 Grand Marquis GS - CFI-SEFI conversion, Explorer 302, GT40 intakes, GT40P heads, 1.7 roller rockers, HO Cam, ASP Underdrive Pulley, 2.5" Dual exhaust, Flowmaster Delta 50 mufflers, 3.55 Trac-Lock, Rear disk's, Moog cargo coils, ES rear poly bushings, PI front and rear sway bars, 3G alt., Mark VIII fan, custom Auto-meter dash
1990 Crown Victoria Country Squire - Explorer 302, HO cam, dual exhaust, 3.55 Trac-Lock, PI rear sway bar (SOLD)
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Okay. That doesn't sound to painful to get. Cruise control doesn't really matter, but I'm sure it will be a nice little feature just to have. People are amazed that cruise works on a 26 year old car, and not their 10 year old one. I have all the manuals for the 85, probably need to get some for the 87. Thanks on the fuel pump, I wasn't looking forwards to changing that, especially if it's in the gas tank. I do have a question about distributors though; can I purchase a HEI and it be plug and play with the 87 motor too? Summit has some from DUI for $350ish.85' Crown Vic 2dr. Small tire stock block grudge car.
09’ CTS-V family car making over 700whp with ease.
79’ f350 427 ls7 swapped with th400. Prerunner setup
64’ c30 dually. Slammed and turbo 5.3 with 4l80eComment
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no, the HEI dizzy only works on a carb engine. You need to have the stock type distributor for EFI.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley
91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry
1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal
Originally posted by phayzer5
I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers
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Dang. Okay. Thanks for that before I wasted money though. So, going to pull the motor and transmission tomorrow hopefully with all the extra little goodies, getting out of school early if all goes according to plan so I won't be there all day.85' Crown Vic 2dr. Small tire stock block grudge car.
09’ CTS-V family car making over 700whp with ease.
79’ f350 427 ls7 swapped with th400. Prerunner setup
64’ c30 dually. Slammed and turbo 5.3 with 4l80eComment
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Did not get that motor today, and probably will not now. Somebody has removed a few parts from it, and the computer is gone. Back to square one. Time to just rebuild my motor I guess and go for the carb again. Anybody know what size four bbl carb I should use? Mid-range power and not horrible on gas (anything above 12-14mpgs).85' Crown Vic 2dr. Small tire stock block grudge car.
09’ CTS-V family car making over 700whp with ease.
79’ f350 427 ls7 swapped with th400. Prerunner setup
64’ c30 dually. Slammed and turbo 5.3 with 4l80eComment
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600 CFM is pretty good on a stock 302. I'd go 750 for a ported and polished with the possibility of a mild power adder. But 600 should work a treat for most daily driving. Keeping it around 14 mpg means keeping your foot off the floor though. I don't even get over 15mpg in my 88 EFI 302 cause I pound it so hard. I did a light foot run and got 15mpg once (all city)... but I tend to average about 13-14mpg city. highway I get about 20 though. so if yours is mixed driving... 600 CFM and a good tune up should net about 15-16 mpg.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
Originally posted by gadget73
... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
Originally posted by dmccaig
Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.Comment
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If you have the skills to do a motor swap, the one nut holding the shift selector shaft is not a big deal....Originally posted by 85ltd View Post
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If you are not subject to emissions testing, go with a carb. Performance parts are expensive for a SEFI, especially when you add in the cost of the initial conversion from CFI. Every penny spent on a NoPo '87 motor is less money you would have to purchase an Explorer motor which has actual performance potential.Originally posted by 85ltd View PostComment
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Emissions are not a problem for me, so carb it is. I found a kit from JEGS that has the Weiand intake, a .522 lunati cam, and a 670 carb. I guess I should hope for anything above 10mpg, because I love the sound of my car, and watching ricers freak when a land yacht walks em. Thank you all very much, I really like this forum, and I will be posting a few pics of my Vic before long. Hope to show some pictures of the new setup real soon though.85' Crown Vic 2dr. Small tire stock block grudge car.
09’ CTS-V family car making over 700whp with ease.
79’ f350 427 ls7 swapped with th400. Prerunner setup
64’ c30 dually. Slammed and turbo 5.3 with 4l80eComment
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You will not likely be able to use that cam with factory NoPo pistons if you go with a 86+ CV/GM engine due to there not being valve reliefs... If you want to walk ricers, you are better off setting your aspirations higher than a 86+ CV/GM engine transplant.Originally posted by 85ltd View PostComment
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I don't know if it matters, but it is an 85. And I was going to get keith black pistons, don't know what kind yet, and a gasket/ring set. Machine work should put me at 306ci. It is non-roller, I do know. Since it is going to take longer than just an engine swap, I'm going to change up a few things such as a 3.55 or 3.73 rear gear with a lsd. Add the shorties I found, and I still have to find a new transmission or rebuild the current one.85' Crown Vic 2dr. Small tire stock block grudge car.
09’ CTS-V family car making over 700whp with ease.
79’ f350 427 ls7 swapped with th400. Prerunner setup
64’ c30 dually. Slammed and turbo 5.3 with 4l80eComment
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'86+ 302 blocks can be found for free or close to it. There is no reason to build a non-roller block. Find yourself a '89+ core AOD to build.Originally posted by 85ltd View PostComment
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Hmm, okay, I will look for one then. Where do you suppose I find a core at? What does that include exactly? Is it just the case and no valve body or gears?85' Crown Vic 2dr. Small tire stock block grudge car.
09’ CTS-V family car making over 700whp with ease.
79’ f350 427 ls7 swapped with th400. Prerunner setup
64’ c30 dually. Slammed and turbo 5.3 with 4l80eComment
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Core= a unit to rebuild.
'89 up = internal upgrades over earlier trannies.
Check the classifieds, junkyards, friends etc... to find one.
The aod in my '87 crapped, I haven't had the time or initiave to search a later one out yet though...
87 Ford LTD Crown Victoria Country Squire Station Wagon. 4.10's, Repacked Trac Loc, Boxed LCA's, Explorer Intake, 65mm T-body, 'Stang Cam, 'Stang Air tube, K&N, GT-40X Heads, 1" Spacer, 1 5/8 BBK's, 2.5" Pypes X-pipe w/high flow cats, Single Chamber Thunderbolts, B&M 'vertor, Po-lice Swaybars.
91 Mercury Grand Marquis Colony Park Station Wagon. K-Code, 4.10's, Repacked Trac Loc, MK VII LSC Engine, 'Stang Upper Intake, Stang Air Tube, K&N, 65 mm T-Body, 'Stang Headers, 'Stang Cat Pipe,'Stang Torque Convertor, 2 Chamber Thunderbolts.
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