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    1985 cfi to 95 mustang efi engine swap

    I got an 85 box i found a wrecked 95 mustang with 5.0 the guy is willing to sell engine complete and wiring harness before i buy it i was wondering if it will swap into my 85 what will i need to change modify ie will tranmsiion work motor mounts etc or would it be easier to get an older 5.0? just rying to figure if its more work than its worth
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    it will bolt in. You will need to turn the upper intake around (not an issue) and take care of the extra slack you'll create in the throttle and trans cables. You will need the 95's engine computer of course. You may need to swap accessories and brackets over from your engine to the 95's (AC, alt, power steering). Other than that, it's a direct bolt in.

    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
    rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

    Originally posted by gadget73
    ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

    Originally posted by dmccaig
    Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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      #3
      You can't use that upper intake off of the 95 stang unless you change the underhood setup of the car. The 95 mustang harness is completely diffferent from the 93 and down mustang. The 95 mustang uses an electronic automatic transmission or the T5. The engine is more or less the same between the years in the mustang. And will swap into any car as long as you use your brackets and mounts. If this 95 stang was manual be sure to pull out the pilot bushing in the back of the crank, otherwise it won't mount up to your trans.

      If you want to use that engine, do it. I recommend these parts:

      You'll need an HO upper intake from 87-93 stang (88-92 mark vii) you can use the 95 stang lower with this upper.
      Or upgrade to an explorer (GT40) intake. 1996-1997 have integrated EGR. 98+ have external egr. You'll need to drill a hole in lower intake for intake temp sensor if you choose to go this route...

      If you're keeping the stock HO intakes, you'll need A modded HO throttle body, (It's the HO throttle body with the Crown vic linkages installed in place of the mustang ones) Or if you go explorer you'll need a modded explorer throttle body (same idea as the HO throttle body, just bigger bore)

      A bored out crown vic EGR spacer. Or HO spacer with fabricated brackets to allow the crown vic bracketry to hook up.

      Crown Vic accelerator cable, transmission kickdown cable and cruise control cable (if you're keeping cruise) from an 86-91 EFI crown vic, grand marquis or towncar. You'll need to use the corresponding year throttle cable if you used the 86 panther throttle body linkages.

      EFI panther shift linkage and tv lever on the side of the transmission 86-89...

      Fuel rail from an 86-91 Crown Vic, grand marquis, (86-90 towncar)

      A complete engine wiring harness with opposite connectors (so you can make your connections into your stock harness and be able to unplug it from your car) from an 86-89 Crown Vic, Grand Marquis or TownCar. I recommend using the same model as whichever car you have.

      Crown Vic, Grand Marquis or TownCar water pump. I recommend the HD cast iron one.

      Fuel lines from the fuel rail down to the frame from a 1986-1991 box panther

      An engine computer from either an 88-92 Lincoln Mark VII, or 87-88 Auto Mustang. If you plan on converting to mass air, I'll cover that later...

      Your stock exhaust manifolds will work. You'll need to replace the manifold that doesn't have the provisions for an O2 sensor. I'm not sure which one doesn't have it. 1990 TownCar manifolds flow a bit better, look better and weigh less. Or you can upgrade the exhaust with Fox body mustang parts.

      You'll need all sensors from a 1986-1991 SEFI panther or 1987-1993 SEFI Fox body.

      You may need to use a distributor out of a box panther or fox body 5.0 I think the later ones give off a different signal or something. 94 and 95 mustangs got a remote mount TFI module instead of it being mounted to the distributor.

      I'm probably forgetting stuff. I'm sure someone else will chime in...

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        #4
        it's not the tubular upper on the stangs for 94 and 95?

        nevermind... found the pic.



        yeah... that intake won't work on a panther without relocating the battery to the other side and yeah... hood issues.
        Last edited by sly; 11-08-2012, 05:34 PM.

        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
        rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

        Originally posted by gadget73
        ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

        Originally posted by dmccaig
        Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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          #5
          95 mustangs have the aode transmission.......would be easier to use the crown vic aod trans

          the engine will work, you just need a 87-93 5.0 HO upper intake and throttle body and a 86-91 panther egr spacer bored out to 63mm

          1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
          2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
          1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
          1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
          2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
          1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

          please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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            #6
            I thought the '94-95's had a different timing cover/water pump and accessory drive...it's much easier to use fox-body harness and ecm...and the '94-95 T-5 is longer than the earlier fox body t-5's....other than that it looks like all the bases have been covered....flipping that intake around would result in the throttle body trying to occupy the same space as the brake booster!

            Good luck,
            Don
            '85 CV coupe- 351W, T5-Z, FAST Ez-Efi, shorty headers, 2.5" duals with knock off flowmasters, 2.5" Impala tails, seriously worked GT-40 irons, Comp 265DEH cam, 1.7rr's, Mallory HyFire 6A, Taylor ThunderVolt 50 10.4mm wires, 75mm t/b, 3G alt swap, 140mph PI speedo, PI rear sway bar, '00 PI booster/MC, 95-97 front spindles, '99 front hub bearings/brakes, '92-'94 front upper control arms/ball-joints, 3.73's with rebuilt traction-lok, '09 PI rear disc swap, '96 Mustang GT wheels with 235/55R17's.

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              #7
              correct, the timing cover and water pump need to be swapped over

              1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
              2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
              1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
              1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
              2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
              1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

              please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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                #8
                EFI panther shift linkage and tv lever on the side of the transmission 86-89...
                The TV linkage and bracket worked best for me when i used a bracket from a panther with a rod controlled Gear selector. 86-89 or 91

                And the TV lever from a car with a cable controlled gear selector. 88 or 89-91

                Cant remember exactly what year they have cable controlled gear selectors, it might be 90 but either way:

                Bracket from cable controlled
                Lever from Rod controlled

                A bracket from a cable controlled will need cut, but can still work

                A lever from a rod controlled, I could not get on without hitting the gear selector. A lever from a cable controlled only hits in park but is still driveable.

                Your stock exhaust manifolds will work. You'll need to replace the manifold that doesn't have the provisions for an O2 sensor. I'm not sure which one doesn't have it. 1990 TownCar manifolds flow a bit better, look better and weigh less. Or you can upgrade the exhaust with Fox body mustang parts.
                The drivers manifold will need swapped, or a bung welded on, but yeah just get some mustang headers, the 95 5.0 should have the same headers as well as a fox but I believe has 4 cats

                The swap will be well worth it. CFI sucks
                1985 LTD Crown Victoria - Currently restoring after she caught fire! CFI to SEFI to Carb swap, all custom wiring, Duraspark 2 ignition, Motorcraft 2100 Carb, slicktop, Shorty headers dumped before rear axle, 140 Speedo, 3G alt, And currently building an engine for her.

                2000 Lincoln Town Car Signature Series - 165XXX, PI intake swap , 30 MPG Easy on the Highway, All options except dual exhaust. Currently looking for 2 front seats: Heated, Memory, and Light Graphite color!!

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by fmansfield444 View Post
                  the 95 5.0 should have the same headers as well as a fox but I believe has 4 cats

                  The swap will be well worth it. CFI sucks
                  The 95 has some bs going on with the EGR valve which is very ugly and has something to do with the passenger side header...

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                    #10
                    yes, external EGR on that style intake. Pipe runs from the header to the valve on the side of the intake. Older models had the passage inside the intake.
                    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                    Originally posted by phayzer5
                    I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

                    Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it works

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                      #11
                      Okay so what if i pull an upper intake from a 87-91 crown vic/marquis and cables since they would mostlikely work better with my marq? and just swap my accessories and exhaust manifolds? i dont have to worry bout emissions and have no cats on my marq but will my manifolds work? and i am not keeping cruise

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                        #12
                        87-93 mustang upper and throttle body or 88-92 mark7 upper and throttle body........the lopo upper has a much smaller small inlet........iirc the 90-91 vic/gm wiring harness works better for a cfi to sefi conversion, also you will need a speed density ecm.......86-88 mustang or 86-92 mark7
                        90 town cars have tubular exhaust manifolds that bolt up to the stock box panther exhaust.

                        1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
                        2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
                        1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
                        1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
                        2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
                        1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

                        please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

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                          #13
                          you will need manifolds/headers with allowance for oxy sensor on each side. I don't think CFI did that. 86-91 vic/marq headers will bolt up. The 90 towny tubes are very much nicer though.

                          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                          rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                          Originally posted by gadget73
                          ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                          Originally posted by dmccaig
                          Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                            #14
                            I dont know if they would be good to go with but dorman has replacments in cast iron for the 90 lincoln and they have holes for O2 sensors

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                              #15
                              would i also be wrong in assuming if i get this stuff off a 89-91 marquis it would only have one 02 sensor because its obd1? i think ill take the engine and swap all accesorries and intake from 91 vic/marq and wiring and ecm

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