Mod Motor Box Madness

[Grand Marquis GT]

Very nice.

How much for that adaptor? :evil:

[Mercracer]

$499 for the adapter and then build it however your heart desires...

You can't tell me that one of these engines wouldn't look cool hiding between the fenders of a Vic.........

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ooh, tri-duece on a 4.6 32v..... that'd be badass.

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[Mercracer]

If 4.6 isn't good engough and you want the motor to stick way through your hood, here are some 5.4 choices...
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How about 5.4 32V High Rise 2x4V and Nitrous....:evil:
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[Nathan in MI]

Aren't there any headers available for those things? Can't help but notice that they've got those pretty induction systems on 'em and then ugly log exhaust manifolds.

[Mercracer]

Aren't there any headers available for those things? Can't help but notice that they've got those pretty induction systems on 'em and then ugly log exhaust manifolds.

Of course there are, but Kar Kraft doesn't make headers and doesn't bolt your engine in for you......

They have crate engines for sale, so the pictures are of their induction on their crate engines.....

Use your imagination......

[Nathan in MI]

Well, I didn't know, that's why I asked.

[DuceAnAHalf]

Mod motor exhaust manifolds are not as big of a restriction as 302 manifolds

[mrltd]

[Grand Marquis GT]

Good lord, those engines look SWEET!

[P72Ford]

Good lord, those engines look SWEET!

How true. Those big blue valve covers make them look really nice.

[P72Ford]

Dude..... 32V OHC heads are a giant leap in technology over NoPo/HO/GT40 5.slow heads.....
The 4V Mod motors have more power potential than any factory pushrod engine without going inside the motor. Mod motors love RPMs. Older Cobra Motors have aluminum blocks.... There is no huge weight penalty over a 5.0. Don't forget that N2O is a power adder. Nitrous and carbs for teh win.....
If for no other reason, imagine how that motor would look... The looks of a Boss or SOHC for a fraction of the price....
If you wish to stay FI, then bolt on a Victor Jr or Victor carb intake with a throttle body elbow and stick injectors in it. You could still put a blower or nitrous plate on there.
These adapters merely open up a whole world of additional induction choices...
Just a few years back, you were stuck with factory or custom fabricated sheetmetal intakes....

OK, you make some good points.

But, in a naturally aspirated (read no power adders; that includes nitrous) power competition between an OHC Ford, and a pushrod Ford, the pushrod motor would win. Spend the same amount on each one (huge disadvantage for the OHC) and the pushrod engine would tool all over the OHC, just because the pushrod motors are capable of so much more displacement. Hell, spend 1.5 times what you spend on the pushrod on the OHC, and it would still be outpowered. OHC engines like the boost/ power adders. Unless your carbed OHC engine uses nitrous as a power adder (cheating, in my honest opinion), then carbing your OHC engine is pointless to me. Yeah, it looks cool, but since when has that motivated me?

Even if you took a 4.6 to the limit (what 302 ci?), and compared it with a stock dimension 302, I am fairly certain the pushrod engine would dominate. The OHC engine could be carbed or injected, it really doesn't matter. The OHC engines have a "low" power ceiling in NA form.

I still would go with a pushrod engine if I'm going carbed. Cheaper, and most likely more powerful.

[mrltd]

Stock 5.0L cobras were 245HP and the 4.6L was 300hp...

Ford crate motors, The DOHC 5.0L makes 500hp, baddest 302 crate motor is under 400hp.


Obviously there is something there. Nevermind Chevy and Dodge.

[Mercracer]

Even if you took a 4.6 to the limit (what 302 ci?), and compared it with a stock dimension 302, I am fairly certain the pushrod engine would dominate. The OHC engine could be carbed or injected, it really doesn't matter. The OHC engines have a "low" power ceiling in NA form.

I still would go with a pushrod engine if I'm going carbed. Cheaper, and most likely more powerful.

Bargain basement cheap assed economy macaroni and cheese with a side of ramen noodles cheap......... 5.0 OHV Windsor for teh win....

Look cool as shit.... spend a few more bucks (maybe an assload more).... more power potential with a power adder without even touching a valve cover bolt..... 4.6 all day mang........
Regarding N2O being cheating......It isn't cheating if you are winning....... Second place is the first loser....

The 1995 351W (5.8) Cobra R was pitiful compared to a 2000 5.4 Cobra R.

2003 Mustang Cobra..... Ford GT... Shelby GT500 Super Snake........ Production cars passing emissions......try that with a stroked 351W.. I rest my case.......


Where am I right now?????

I LOVE MACARONI AND CHEESE!!!!!

[P72Ford]

1.) Your arguments are fine if we are talking stock. I remember talking about modifications though...

2.) Macaroni and cheese is good.

3.) The OHV engines are alot more appealing to me. Why? They're cheap. Anything that is expensive to lay out is never going to be as much fun.

[Mercracer]

Cheap is nice, but winning is MUCH more fun than loosing. A Mod Motor holds the current record in Pro 5.0. There are NA 4.6 motors powering Mustangs into the 11s, 10s and even 9s.
The botton line is that most people reading this do not have the money to build a serious mod motor car. Most people will be putting a 302 in their box Panther. Thankfully, some of us are making different plans....