What are some common swaps for the panthers to go from an AOD to a different automatic? I was considering either a 4r70w or E4OD since the trans went out in my 91 GM and it’s hard to find a rebuild for under $2000
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You know those are electronically controlled right? The 4R70W is the better physical fit but without a controller they don't work. You'd also need one from a 5.0 or 3.8 car so it bolts to a 302.
E4OD is a chunky thing, I don't think it will fit.
86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley
91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry
1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal
Originally posted by phayzer5
I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers
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Depends on how much more than that 2k you want to spend... Or you could go with a junkyard C4 for pennies, but you don't want to lose overdrive.
4R70W, AODE and E4OD all need transmission controllers. E4OD is pretty heavy duty compared to an AOD, it's about the same length IIRC, but the case is bigger.
If you want to go 4R70W, you need one from specific applications that have the SBF bolt pattern, alot of them have the modular engine pattern.
You could get a TH700R4 and an adapter plate, but you need something for the TCC.
WIth whatever else than the AOD, you get to figure out the trans crossmember, tailshaft length (and maybe yoke), speedo cable, VSS and all the wiring from scratch.Comment
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If I were able to find an AOD from a 2wd pickup is it just a matter of swapping tail housings and linkage, or would it be more extensive?Comment
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The output shaft is also a different length, and swapping it out requires full disassembly of the trans. Changing the linkage requires dropping the valve body.Originally posted by 91merc View PostComment
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Another question, would an AOD from a fox body car be fairly similar do one from a panther or no?Comment
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They should be identical, but the shift linkage might be the wrong way aroundOriginally posted by 91merc View PostComment
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Ford and Mercury car AODs fit. Lincoln AOD do not. I don't know about trucks.
Column vs floor shift linkage is different, I don't know about rod column vs cable column setup. Its not that hard to change the linkage over but an eyeball will tell you if they don't match, and a tape measure will tell you if its the right length transmission.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley
91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry
1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal
Originally posted by phayzer5
I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers
Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it worksComment
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Side note, I verified the TV pressure and made sure it had adequate fluid level, but when you put it in gear it doesn’t feel like it’s engaging, I can get it to barely creep up to 10mph on a flat surface. Reverse is still fully functional but forward gear feels like neutral regardless if it’s in 1, D, or OD. I imagine it probably has burnt clutches. How hard is it to rebuild one of these? I’m a mechanic but I haven’t gotten too deep on automatic transmission internalsComment
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sounds like the forward clutch smoked. Only other thing that can cause this is the gasket on the filter missing, but that would require having just done a filter change and it doesn't work after that.
Losing the forward clutch loses 1-3. OD doesn't need it, but since you don't have the first 3 gears to get it going fast enough to engage overdrive thats sort of irrelevant
if it lost the direct clutch you'd have 1-2 and no further upshift
if it lost the OD band you'd have 1-2-3-neutral
86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley
91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry
1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal
Originally posted by phayzer5
I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers
Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it worksComment
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Whatever you do, don't put an E4OD in it.
...I have a love/hate relationship with the one in our F-150.1985 LTD Crown Victoria - SOLD
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