Complete box panther gauge installation how-to

[Eric62]

Thank you Slack and 87gtVIC, I appreciate it!
Got the sending unit wire run and the rest of the electrical almost done before it got too dark and the skeeters came out.

[87gtVIC]

Yep. Idiot light by alternator, computer by ac compressor.

[slack]

Yeah there's two sensors for the coolant temperature like you said.

Mine is going off the one to the right of the distributor behind the alternator bracket. (Circled in red below). The other sensor used by the computer is circled in green.

Pic:

[Eric62]

Coolant Temperature

Fact: your only temperature feedback is the engine light whcih tends to come on after you are already overheating

replace the stock sensor found here, next the the alternator bracket brace, with the sensor that comes with the gauge (adapters will be needed, usually included)

(image shows a mechanical type sensor and tubing)

I am working on getting at the very least a temp gauge working before a long trip this week... I just looked in my Haynes manual and it says the sending unit for the gauge is on the intake manifold next to the distributor, but up above it mentions it being next to the alternator bracket. I believe there is one for the idiot light and one for the computer... I just want to be 100% certain I replace the right one. I meant to look for it today, but got sidetracked.

Thanks
Eric

[87gtVIC]

aww that is one I haven't seen before. That would work I suppose on a sunpro gauge..no idea about a warner though.

I know your issues are solved but I was just snooping around an the part number of that sender from amazon has the wrong picture with it. The part number is Sunpro CP7577 which according to sunpro's website has a sender that looks like I described and would require that adapter to push the sender away from the block:



What they have pictured is the temperature sender.

[91grandmarquis]

http://www.stewartwarner.net/SW%20Pages/SWgaug15.html

http://www.sw-performance.com/#

That is a link to the Stewart Warner spec page for senders. It lists the senders according to gauge "capacity" not sure if they will work as this set is older, but you could call and talk to a tech there. I cannot imagine they have changed much though. The second one is the official site I believe to get tech numbers and so on.

[87gtVIC]

thanks!




thats what I was looking at.

http://www.amazon.com/Sunpro-CP7577-.../dp/B00029JXMA

aww that is one I haven't seen before. That would work I suppose on a sunpro gauge..no idea about a warner though.

[85crownHPP]

removing our senders wont trigger the oil or temp circuits for the warning light.

[91grandmarquis]

You can buy the "T" adapter to keep your oil light sender so it doesn't trigger it, they have them under accessories on the sunpro site.

[85crownHPP]

Its on the to-do list!!!! i lost a lot of the old pics... gotta snap new ones.

[1990LTD]

thanks!




thats what I was looking at.

http://www.amazon.com/Sunpro-CP7577-Oil-Pressure-Sender/dp/B00029JXMA

[87gtVIC]

Cool. I am getting that funky old Stewart Warner gauge pod from 91grandmarquis, so it's electric. Does that thing trigger the oil light on my dashboard? If so, does that function remain once I have the new one in?

Can I just buy a Sunpro electric sender from fleabay? I have no idea what kind of adapter I need, or if I'm getting rid of the stock oil pressure switch completely (as in, does it splice in or replace it entirely?)

Yes it trigger the oil light in the dash board according to my EVTM. With it removed nothing bad happens though as in the light does not stay on etc. You will loose the function of the light but that is what the new gauge is for.

I have no idea about the compatibility between senders from different manufacturers. But one thing I can tell you is this. The oil pressure sender will most likely be shaped like a big cow bell. That big cow bell will not even come close to fitting against the engine block where the oil pressure switch sits currently. You will be in need of an oil pressure adapter thingy. It looks like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/87-93...Q5fAccessories

You can find that adapter on trucks as well. Just search for them instead of paying that much for one. It is a pocket item in the junkyards that is free

That screws into the block and then the bell sender screw's into that. And you can be on your merry way.

EDIT my description of the oil light may be wrong. But it will not light up anyway with the thing removed.

[1990LTD]

Cool. I am getting that funky old Stewart Warner gauge pod from 91grandmarquis, so it's electric. Does that thing trigger the oil light on my dashboard? If so, does that function remain once I have the new one in?

Can I just buy a Sunpro electric sender from fleabay? I have no idea what kind of adapter I need, or if I'm getting rid of the stock oil pressure switch completely (as in, does it splice in or replace it entirely?)

[87gtVIC]

that is an oil pressure switch thing. To install any oil gauge that switch will have to be removed and the correct sender(with adapter) or mechanical oil line will have to be inserted into its place.

[1990LTD]

cool. I am honestly surprised it's not because of the computer I'm on


Is this the little guy that gets replaced? I find that kinda funny since I had to replace a leaky one the other day