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    #16
    Update/correction: I got the back of the alternator off. Guessing I can do it again now that I've done it once. :p

    It looks like the middle ring and rectifier assembly are all soldered together with the stator windings.

    Now I just need to find how I can bench-test the regulator and rectifier assemblies here at home. :waiting:
    2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!

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      #17
      rectifier you'd check with an ohm meter, or ideally one with a diode check function. SHould be open one way, and read some resistance the other way. On a diode check, pribably maybe 1/2 volt one way, and infinite the other. If it reads zero both ways, its shorted.
      86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
      5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

      91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

      1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

      Originally posted by phayzer5
      I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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        #18
        Any idea what points I would use to contact the thing? The stator winding seems to be soldered to the rectifier in about four places.
        2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!

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          #19
          you got me man, I've never had one of those apart to tell you the truth. There should be 3 rectifiers, probably they all tie to a common point, and individually each goes to a different part of the stator. If thats not how its actually put together internally, hell if I know.
          86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
          5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

          91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

          1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

          Originally posted by phayzer5
          I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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            #20
            Well, I did some prodding about with the diode function on my cheapie GE multimeter, and I seem to have continuity everywhere in every direction, including between the output post and the body of the alternator. So I thought as a next step I'd remove the rectifier assembly and test it separately from the rest of the thing. Slight problem: my soldering iron apparently doesn't get hot enough to melt the solder that was used to attach the rectifier to the stator coils. I don't think cutting the rectifier loose would be a good idea, as it may necessitate replacing the coils even if they're good at present, so that means I may need to look for a higher-powered soldering tool ..........
            2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!

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              #21
              100w gun ought to do it. I have a harbor frieght one that gets plenty hot, to the point that it will melt it's own tips in half if I'm not real careful. I've barely used it and already cooked through 2.
              86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
              5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

              91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

              1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

              Originally posted by phayzer5
              I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                #22
                Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
                100w gun ought to do it. I have a harbor frieght one that gets plenty hot, to the point that it will melt it's own tips in half if I'm not real careful. I've barely used it and already cooked through 2.
                Lolz. Been there done that. Yay Harbor freight!
                Originally posted by gadget73
                There is nothing more permanent than a temporary fix.
                91 Mercury CP, Lopo 302, AOD, 3.08LSD. 3g upgrade, Moog wagon coils up front, cc819s in the back. KYB GR-2 police shocks. Energy suspension control arm bushings. Smog deleted.
                93 F-150 XLT, 302, ZF 5-spd from 1-ton, 4wd.
                Daily--07 Civic Coupe. Bone stock with 25k miles
                Wife--14 Subaru Outback. 6-speed.
                95 Subaru Legacy Wagon--red--STOLEN 1/6/13

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                  #23
                  I ought to use it on my variac, that way I can crank down the voltage.
                  86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                  5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                  91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                  1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                  Originally posted by phayzer5
                  I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                    #24
                    That's a neat thought. Same thing as a router speed control box? 'cause I've got one of them...
                    2012 Mazda5 Touring | Finally working on the LTD again!

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                      #25
                      well, a variac is more properly an autotransformer, not sure what a router speed control box uses. Most likely an autotransformer since triacs (light dimmers) make for some funky wave forms that motors don't always like. Either will work for a soldering iron though.
                      86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                      5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                      91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                      1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                      Originally posted by phayzer5
                      I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                        #26
                        Is there a way to do this with the "one wire hook up?" Does it have to be a special made alternator or do you just hook the green (on/off) wire right to the positive?
                        Vehicle: 1965 Pontiac Catalina (fastback 2+2)
                        Chasis: 1982 Ford LTD Country Squire
                        Drivetrain: 302 V8 carb, AOD, 8.8 with 3.08 gears.
                        Big Brake swap and front suspension completed.
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                          #27
                          Tie the green/red to a switched ignition source. You can tie it to the coil if you want. Yellow wire on the regulator plug goes to the output stud on the back of the alternator, heavy cable from output stud to the battery + or the starter relay, whichever is easier for you.
                          86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                          5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                          91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                          1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                          Originally posted by phayzer5
                          I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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                            #28
                            Just splice it into the on/off for the coil???? Im gona convert to HEI soon. will this cause any problems?
                            Vehicle: 1965 Pontiac Catalina (fastback 2+2)
                            Chasis: 1982 Ford LTD Country Squire
                            Drivetrain: 302 V8 carb, AOD, 8.8 with 3.08 gears.
                            Big Brake swap and front suspension completed.
                            sigpic

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                              #29
                              shouldn't cause any issues. As long as its a switched + you're good. If you have the stock Ford dash, you can just use the original greed/red wire that would be tied to the old external voltage regulator so you retain the idiot light function.
                              86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                              5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                              91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                              1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                              Originally posted by phayzer5
                              I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

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