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    #16
    yeah, the MF switch is bad anyway if it won't hold the turn signal in or cancel when you turn the wheel. Thats a mechanical bit of the switch, basically just a plastic tab that catches the lever and releases it when pushed on by a block attatched to the steering shaft itself. If you pull it off, you'll see how it works. Removal is simple, pull the 4 screws out of the bottom of the shroud, and remove the shrouds from the column. The MF switch mounts with I think 2 T20 torx screws. I'd probably put a new one in. Any from the junkyard are likely to be pushing 30 years old and have the same brittle plastic. The earlier ones had metal latch ears, but they had the horn on the stalk. You can use the early switch, but you lose the flash to pass feature. I have one from an '84 in my car. Not for any special reason, but its what I found when I needed one and its been in there almost 10 years now.
    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

    Originally posted by phayzer5
    I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

    Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it works

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      #17
      Can you buy these switches at a friendly auto parts store?
      "To Find yourself, you must first lose yourself"

      -1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy
      -1986 Honda Magna 700cc
      -1989 Lincoln Town car Signature Series
      -2011 Subaru Outback

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        #18
        possibly. they may have to order it.

        AZ: http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...mString=search
        Oreilly: http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...+signal+switch
        Napa: http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/Ca...1SB_0471819180
        Rock Auto: http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,ca...,parttype,4832

        Rock Auto has the best deal and you can use the discount code in the vendor section to get an additional 5% off of that.

        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
        rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

        Originally posted by gadget73
        ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

        Originally posted by dmccaig
        Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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          #19
          Yeah, I LOVE rockauto!
          "To Find yourself, you must first lose yourself"

          -1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy
          -1986 Honda Magna 700cc
          -1989 Lincoln Town car Signature Series
          -2011 Subaru Outback

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            #20
            Unfriendly ones likely also have the switch, but those guys are assholes.
            86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
            5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

            91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

            1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

            Originally posted by phayzer5
            I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

            Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it works

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              #21
              I have one laying around somewhere. I know it works because it came out of my car lol.

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                #22
                Nice, I'll take it! Is it from a junkyard car, John?
                "To Find yourself, you must first lose yourself"

                -1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy
                -1986 Honda Magna 700cc
                -1989 Lincoln Town car Signature Series
                -2011 Subaru Outback

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                  #23
                  Oh, you mean NAPA, LOL

                  Originally posted by gadget73 View Post
                  Unfriendly ones likely also have the switch, but those guys are assholes.
                  "To Find yourself, you must first lose yourself"

                  -1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy
                  -1986 Honda Magna 700cc
                  -1989 Lincoln Town car Signature Series
                  -2011 Subaru Outback

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                    #24
                    well, i changed the brake light switch, put in a 15 amp fuse hit the brakes...baam, pops again,

                    So i guess the next step is the multi function switch? right?
                    "To Find yourself, you must first lose yourself"

                    -1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy
                    -1986 Honda Magna 700cc
                    -1989 Lincoln Town car Signature Series
                    -2011 Subaru Outback

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by 85crownHPP View Post
                      Start simple - remove and inspect all the brake light bulbs/sockets first, see if it pops with all of them removed. The contacts on the bottoms of 115X type bulbs can melt and spooge out of place, corrosion in the sockets can make them fall apart and short out. Also replacement sockets like to fall apart for no reason.
                      Had your brother done anything to the car recently before this happened?
                      X2 Start simple. It happened to me with a China bulb.

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                        #26
                        no my brother just drives cars to the ground
                        "To Find yourself, you must first lose yourself"

                        -1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy
                        -1986 Honda Magna 700cc
                        -1989 Lincoln Town car Signature Series
                        -2011 Subaru Outback

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                          #27
                          i will inspect the bulbs, thank you!
                          "To Find yourself, you must first lose yourself"

                          -1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy
                          -1986 Honda Magna 700cc
                          -1989 Lincoln Town car Signature Series
                          -2011 Subaru Outback

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                            #28
                            UPDATE<<<<>>>

                            I had look at all the bulbs pertaining to brake lights in the rear.

                            Only thing I found was the third brake light in the deck lid, one of the bulbs was out, so I replaced it with a comparable one, put a new fuse...no dice still does it. I guess the next course of action is the multi-function switch. I took off the plastic steering column and would like to know where its at
                            "To Find yourself, you must first lose yourself"

                            -1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy
                            -1986 Honda Magna 700cc
                            -1989 Lincoln Town car Signature Series
                            -2011 Subaru Outback

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by wa9zug View Post
                              Instead of popping fuses, install a small 12 volt lamp in the fuse socket. It will light up when you have a short. You can also use a 12 volt buzzer. Then dink around and pull connectors etc. until the short goes away.
                              I was going to say the same thing, but You'll want to use something a bit bigger than just a small lamp. A single small bulb, will still light up with just the load of the brake lights themselves. I used a big spotlight the last time I did it. Another option would be a couple of 55w driving lights, or something similar.

                              Remove the fuse, and connect the power wires from the lamps to one of the fuse terminal, and the ground to the other. Set the lamps out of the way where they can still be seen easily. Have someone hold the brake pedal and then start messing around with tail lights, any trailer light harnesses, flip the multi function switch, hazard switch etc.
                              When the lamps dim, you've found your problem.
                              Owner of the only known 5 speed box wagon with a lift kit.
                              AKA, Herkimer the Hillbilly SUV.



                              Axle codes
                              Open/Lock/Ratio #
                              -----------------------
                              G / H / 2.26
                              B / C / 2.47
                              8 / M / 2.73
                              7 / - / 3.07
                              Y / Z / 3.08
                              4 / D / 3.42
                              F / R / 3.45
                              5 / E / 3.27
                              6 / W / 3.73
                              2 / K / 3.55
                              A / - / 3.63
                              J / - / 3.85

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by porschpow View Post
                                UPDATE<<<<>>>

                                I had look at all the bulbs pertaining to brake lights in the rear.

                                Only thing I found was the third brake light in the deck lid, one of the bulbs was out, so I replaced it with a comparable one, put a new fuse...no dice still does it. I guess the next course of action is the multi-function switch. I took off the plastic steering column and would like to know where its at
                                it's the turn signal switch.

                                Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                                rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                                Originally posted by gadget73
                                ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                                Originally posted by dmccaig
                                Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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