75 shot to help spool it up.
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- 1990 Ford LTD Crown Victoria P72 - the street boat - 5.0 liter EFI - Ported HO intake/TB, 90 TC shroud/overflow, Aero airbox/zip tube, Cobra camshaft, 19lb injectors, dual exhaust w/ Magnaflows, Cat/Smog & AC delete, 3G alternator, MOOG chassis parts & KYB cop shocks, 215/70r/15s on 95-97 Merc rims
- 2007 Ford Escape XLT - soccer mom lifted station wagon - 3.0 Duratec, auto, rear converter delete w/ Magnaflow dual exhaust
- 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis Ultimate Edition - Daily driver - 4.6 2 valve Mod motor, 4R75E, 2.73s. Bone stock
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Originally posted by rick99601 View Posttwo words-
turbo. lag.
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Originally posted by Mercracer View PostThe same thing which happens when your gasoline tank empties...
+1 they have nice people that will sell you some new stuff to put in your bottle. Hell, since you're not afraid of aftermarket stuff, go bigger. A small stage to help the turbo get going and a bigger stage for the big end of the speedometer.sigpic
- 1990 Ford LTD Crown Victoria P72 - the street boat - 5.0 liter EFI - Ported HO intake/TB, 90 TC shroud/overflow, Aero airbox/zip tube, Cobra camshaft, 19lb injectors, dual exhaust w/ Magnaflows, Cat/Smog & AC delete, 3G alternator, MOOG chassis parts & KYB cop shocks, 215/70r/15s on 95-97 Merc rims
- 2007 Ford Escape XLT - soccer mom lifted station wagon - 3.0 Duratec, auto, rear converter delete w/ Magnaflow dual exhaust
- 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis Ultimate Edition - Daily driver - 4.6 2 valve Mod motor, 4R75E, 2.73s. Bone stock
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Originally posted by Mercracer View PostThe same thing which happens when your gasoline tank empties...
i like turbos and all, just not for this.1988 MGM GS - Preferred Equipment Package 172A; InstaClear
1980 Lincoln Continental Coupe
1994 MGM GS Montigua
2005 F150 Lariat Scab 4x4 3.73 LS
2002 Mustang GT Coupe
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Last edited by rick99601; 02-01-2011, 01:28 AM.1988 MGM GS - Preferred Equipment Package 172A; InstaClear
1980 Lincoln Continental Coupe
1994 MGM GS Montigua
2005 F150 Lariat Scab 4x4 3.73 LS
2002 Mustang GT Coupe
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I don't understand how I turbo doesn't fit what you're trying to do. You're trying to put a box in the 10's. I properly sized turbo for what you want should have no lag, and they make gobs and gobs of tourqe, seems right to me. A borg Warner s475 like I had spools shortly after 3000 rpm on a 408. Twin t70's with the .68 housing spool just about the same. Both will flow enough to support around 800-900 hp on a 351 based motor.
A centrifigul super charger has the same spool charicteristics of a tubo setup, you already said you don't want n2o. So the other option with no "lag" is a roots style blower, which no one really has a kit fora big blower on a Windsor based motor. Or a n/a monster. Assuming you're planning on a Windsor of course
'90 LX 5.0 mustang
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How about some fast box talk?
After some reading it's starting to look like a set of AFR 165s might be the best bet for what I want to do - a decently quick (13s would be just dandy) sleeper. I want to be able to drive the car like it's still a car and from time to time confuse people when they see a full sized grandma sedan do 13s. It would take me a while to afford the AFR heads but they look like they're what I want.
Any confirmed reports of AFR heads on a Panther? I know Mustang guys use them all day long but I'm curious.sigpic
- 1990 Ford LTD Crown Victoria P72 - the street boat - 5.0 liter EFI - Ported HO intake/TB, 90 TC shroud/overflow, Aero airbox/zip tube, Cobra camshaft, 19lb injectors, dual exhaust w/ Magnaflows, Cat/Smog & AC delete, 3G alternator, MOOG chassis parts & KYB cop shocks, 215/70r/15s on 95-97 Merc rims
- 2007 Ford Escape XLT - soccer mom lifted station wagon - 3.0 Duratec, auto, rear converter delete w/ Magnaflow dual exhaust
- 2008 Mercury Grand Marquis Ultimate Edition - Daily driver - 4.6 2 valve Mod motor, 4R75E, 2.73s. Bone stock
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You don't need nitrous to spool a turbo.
A properly designed and built system, with proper supporting parts will spool the turbo just fine.
Turbo lag is a phrase of the past.
Originally posted by 1990LTD View PostHow about some fast box talk?
After some reading it's starting to look like a set of AFR 165s might be the best bet for what I want to do - a decently quick (13s would be just dandy) sleeper. I want to be able to drive the car like it's still a car and from time to time confuse people when they see a full sized grandma sedan do 13s. It would take me a while to afford the AFR heads but they look like they're what I want.
Any confirmed reports of AFR heads on a Panther? I know Mustang guys use them all day long but I'm curious.
Don't build a 13 second car when you can build a 12 second car for the same money.**2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302: 5.0/ 6 spd/ 3.73s, 20K Cruiser
**2006 MGM,"Ultimate": 4.6/ 2.73/ Dark Tint, Magnaflows, 19s, 115K Daily Driver
**2012 Harley Davidson Wide Glide (FXDWG):103/ Cobra Speedsters/ Cosmetics, 9K Poseur HD Rider
**1976 Ford F-150 4WD: 360, 4 spd, 3.50s, factory A/C, 4" lift, Bilsteins, US Indy Mags, 35s Truck Duties
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The local speed shop has a motor there trying to sell for 5k. Its a built 408w with a giant turbo. There pulling it out of a fox that ran a 5.56 in the 1/8 and was around 1000hp on their dyno. Bolt that sucker in and you would be in the 10's easy you would just have to built a damn good drive line.1984 CV tudor 351W, 4bbl, 5-speed best time in the 1/8 8.39 at 80 with 1.80 60ft time.
2006 P71, 1988 Bronco II, 1986 Baby LTD(5.0 & T5 swap in progress), 1976 16' Hobie Cat, 12' AquaFinn
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Originally posted by 1990LTD View PostHow about some fast box talk?
After some reading it's starting to look like a set of AFR 165s might be the best bet for what I want to do - a decently quick (13s would be just dandy) sleeper. I want to be able to drive the car like it's still a car and from time to time confuse people when they see a full sized grandma sedan do 13s. It would take me a while to afford the AFR heads but they look like they're what I want.
Any confirmed reports of AFR heads on a Panther? I know Mustang guys use them all day long but I'm curious.http://secondhandracing.com/Home.aspx
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