Chevy transmission are junk if they have od. My 700r4 would blow the pump seal everytime I thought about towing something.
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The 4L60E in my heavy Suburban holds up to hauling. And 700-R4/200-4R can be built to handle anything, just like a Ford AOD can. The 4L80E is bulletproof, it's like a TH400 but with an OD.88 Town Car (wrecked, for sale)
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4L60E>700R4, just because the later ones got updates. The 700R4/4L60E can be built to handle anything. . . except boost. They're totally hit and miss, even the built ones, when you boost a big, fat assed truck. The 80E swap isn't something I'm looking forward to, but it's going to be a necessary evil for me to tow in OD with a blower.1992 CVLX. 5.0 HO/GT40P/T5/3.73/trak-lok with bolt ons. 02 front CVPI setup, rear HPP setup, CVPI shocks around, F250 radiator, e-fans, and the power of 3G. 15.92@89mph, 2.4 60', 4700' elevation (5500' DA) with 3.08 open rear and the old oil chugging 289. RIP.
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Originally posted by slymer View PostI bet it's the OD band with the chainsaw teeth needing to be replaced... or the OD solenoid getting weak (maybe both) that's causing the grinding during engagement. needing to rebuild my trans (soft parts) and since it was going to be open... and I had the funds at the time (this is on my 88) I had them put in the HD stuff for the OD and wide range gears. I still need a valve body that is made for wide range gears... but under normal driving (ie: not hammering it everywhere) you'd never really know except for the big RPM drop into 3rd (as is the norm on wide range setups from my experience).
Big RPM drop into 3rd? Sounds like a stock AOD to me. 3rd gear, the engine just drops down ridiculously. Bwahhhhhhh...
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Originally posted by 86VickyLX View PostOverdrive Solenoid? In an AOD (stock)? What?
Big RPM drop into 3rd? Sounds like a stock AOD to me. 3rd gear, the engine just drops down ridiculously. Bwahhhhhhh...
and yes... the drop is even worse on the wide range gears.
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Originally posted by Crownvicman289 View Post4L60E>700R4, just because the later ones got updates. The 700R4/4L60E can be built to handle anything. . . except boost.
Half of the drop in RPM on a 2-3 shift with an AOD is because the trans goes into lockup. The torque converter is bypassed in 3 and OD, so you get a gear change and a lockup at the same time. Stuff with the torque converter clutch doesn't have as drastic a change since it usually does not lock up until after you hit overdrive.86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
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Originally posted by phayzer5
I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers
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Originally posted by slymer View Post
and yes... the drop is even worse on the wide range gears.
And how did we get to talking about GM tranny's?
Anyways, bought some stuff tonight.
T5 is out of an 87GT. Supposedly shifted fine when it was in a car, shifts fine by hand, fluid looks brand new. Bellhousing and shift fork, resurfaced flywheel, and a Ford Racing clutch, billet aluminum quadrant and firewall adjuster, new clutch cable, and pedal assembly out of a 84GT. All for $550. Decent deal?2020 F250 - 7.3 4x4 CCSB STX 3.55's - BAKFlip MX4
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I think you could have done worse.sigpic
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Why are you posting and not installing?1992 CVLX. 5.0 HO/GT40P/T5/3.73/trak-lok with bolt ons. 02 front CVPI setup, rear HPP setup, CVPI shocks around, F250 radiator, e-fans, and the power of 3G. 15.92@89mph, 2.4 60', 4700' elevation (5500' DA) with 3.08 open rear and the old oil chugging 289. RIP.
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He still needs to weld in the pivot tube for the clutch pedal into his stock pedal assembly.~David~
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But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck
Originally posted by gadget73
my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.
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Hard to see in pic on phone, the flywheel doesn't look surfaced...Also didn't '84's have smaller clutch\fly assys?
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Originally posted by mitymerc View PostHard to see in pic on phone, the flywheel doesn't look surfaced...Also didn't '84's have smaller clutch\fly assys?~David~
My 1987 Crown Victoria Coupe: The Brown Blob
My 2004 Mercedes Benz E320:The Benz
Originally posted by ootdega
My life is a long series of "nevermind" and "I guess not."
Originally posted by DerekTheGreat
But, that's just coming from me, this site's biggest pessimist. Best of luck
Originally posted by gadget73
my car starts and it has AC. Yours doesn't start and it has no AC. Seems obvious to me.
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Cool
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91 Mercury Grand Marquis Colony Park Station Wagon. K-Code, 4.10's, Repacked Trac Loc, MK VII LSC Engine, 'Stang Upper Intake, Stang Air Tube, K&N, 65 mm T-Body, 'Stang Headers, 'Stang Cat Pipe,'Stang Torque Convertor, 2 Chamber Thunderbolts.
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Originally posted by Crownvicman289 View PostWhy are you posting and not installing?
Originally posted by 87gtVIC View PostHe still needs to weld in the pivot tube for the clutch pedal into his stock pedal assembly.
Originally posted by mitymerc View PostHard to see in pic on phone, the flywheel doesn't look surfaced...Also didn't '84's have smaller clutch\fly assys?Originally posted by 87gtVIC View PostHe only has an 84 pedal assembly. Rest of the goods are from an 87.
Everything has been sitting for a little bit, hence why it probably doesn't look resurfaced (no surface rust or anything, just grimy and dirty.)2020 F250 - 7.3 4x4 CCSB STX 3.55's - BAKFlip MX4
2005 Grand Marquis GS - Marauder sway bars, Marauder exhaust, KYB's
2003 Marauder - Trilogy # 8, JLT, kooks, 2.5" exhaust, 4.10's/31 spline, widened rear's, metco's, addco's, ridetech's 415hp/381tq
1987 Colony Park - 03+ frame swap, blown Gen II Coyote, 6R80, ridetechs, stainless works, absolute money pit. WIP
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