Hardwired 2G alternator Part #?

[BGoins12]

Nosing around on Google... I discovered that Ford has a 2G alternator that was revised to be hardwired.... as seen here....



Anyone know what the part number is on this? There is a local place that sells good used alternators, and I'd like to find one of these. I'm aware of the 3G upgrade, I'm just not prepared for it yet. After looking around, the 2G alternator scares me to death now.

[1990LTD]

65amp?

[gadget73]

That looks like someone made their own plug out of push connectors and just epoxied the thing in place to me. Even if that is factory, I probably wouldn't go seeking out an exotic and hard to find 2g when the 3g swap is so little extra effort.

[Lincolnmania]

yea dont waste your time looking for an exotic 2g.........3g is the way to go.......used ones 10-30 bucks, reman and new ones 90-180 bucks

[85crownHPP]

that thing still has a 3-wire plug on it... i think the charge wires are just permanently attached to the output terminal on that one.

[86VickyLX]

You could go with that set up that takes those wires and puts it to a charge stud. But then basically, you'd have a weak output 3g for the most part

[GM_Guy]

Nothing exotic about it, its a hybrid rectifier to get around known issues, same sorta deal as the other one I posted a while back that converted it to a standard stud output terminal.

WAI (transpo) pigtail rectifier p/n FR192BBS

Alex.

[Lincolnmania]

i used to work at wai many yrs ago

[91waggin]

Screw it. At best, you'd have an alternator that, while not having the fire hazard that comes with a 2g, still only has a 65 amp output, as opposed to the 3g's 130 or so amps. Also, you'd still have the 2g's miserable idle output.

[BGoins12]

Well, to hold me over until I upgrade to a 3G, I made a "quick fix" if you will.

I removed the fire hazard plug by the relays........



Mainly because the plug is a obvious part of the 2G danger. It fits loosely, and the terminals inside the plug are simply undersized.

And replaced it with these...



I already ordered both plugs on the alternator side, and they should be here tomorrow. I figure this will hold me over and be safe enough until I get a decent 3G alternator to swap over to. Saying that.... what cars had the highest amperage 3G?

[Lincolnmania]

ok i'm wrong........ i saw a hardwired 2g at autozone today............but it was a shops return, it smelled cooked lol

[gadget73]

Thats not the plug that fails. Its the plug on the side of the alternator that melts down.

[BGoins12]

I know, but it could very well be a contributing cause. The undersized terminals in the plug can cause resistance thus causing a meltdown at the other plug due to the excessive resistance. Either way, both plugs are poor designs.

Makes me wonder why Ford even approved that kind of hazardous setup.... but the Ford tech I know claims that there's nothing wrong with the design..

[1990LTD]

Yeah i guess that's why they still put them in new Fords

Makes me wonder why Ford even approved that kind of hazardous setup.... but the Ford tech I know claims that there's nothing wrong with the design..

[gadget73]

Its quicker and easier to install, just plug it in, and since its quicker that means it costs less to put the car together. It usually lasted through the warranty period too, so as long as it does that there is nothing wrong with the design as far as the mfg is concerned.