85.03 Crown Vic Coupe "CVGT"

[87gtVIC]

So what we are viewing is the clutch quadrant in the picture through the firewall because it pulled it so far into itself.

And I know what everything is. The picture had no description as to what is what.. hard to make out what the hell is going on.

First looked as if the clutch cable was removed but the firewall adjuster still in place all crooked sucked into the car.

Just wanted an explanation as to what we are actually viewing.

[pantera77]

The picture is just showing how beat the firewall is. See all those little stress tears?

The other problem is that where you mount the firewall spacer, the firewall isn't flat. Best solution is to just weld a piece of metal over where it goes. I think Pier actually sells a piece for the 92+ but I don't see why it wouldn't work on a box.

[86VickyLX]

Would it be safe to say the the firewall design is the same from 90 to at least 92 given that they use the same dashes and such?

[Bobcat]

Would it be safe to say the the firewall design is the same from 90 to at least 92 given that they use the same dashes and such?

I'd say so, it's very similar to my 03.

Dicked with a couple things today, some reason I'm too tired to do much.

[Bobcat]

Finally went to go pick up my rotors today from the brake shop, I'm quite pleased. Jesus fuck these things are much larger from box ones, noticeably much heavier. I got metallic pads from the guy too, he's a good guy and gave me a pretty good deal on everything. I'm sure I won't be disappointed. Especially since I'm going from driving the car with only the front brakes functioning (For the last 6 months of daily driving it) since I was too cheap to fix the rear wheel cylinders. Aye, it stopped /good enough/. Occasional drums seizing when coming to a stop, but hey that's all part of living life on the edge. Stupidity? Nah, no way.

Anyhow, motor is in long block form, I finished porting the second head finally and torqued them both on tonight, this'll help with finding the position that's needed for creating these engine mount, mounts. Still need to find a TKO 500 or if I'm lucky, a mustang T56 for cheap. I still need to remove the front suspension and go through all of that, I ordered new MOOG front coils for it as well, since one of them is cracked. Interior is still completely stripped. Fuck, I need to go pickup some sound deadening for that. Long list of shit to do, but nothing that's unmanageable.

Modify blow motor box
Fab engine mount, mounts
Fab transmission cross member
Modify box rad support
Take 03 front suspension out and go through it
Put new coils, swaybar endlinks, swaybar bushings in
Grind and paint the front section of the frame
Do all the brake line fittings
Order a Distribution block and plumb it
Disassemble calipers, clean and paint.
Remove rear end and replace with LSD unit (05+ 31 spline, LSD with 3.55 and if it's 3.27, I'll put my 3.73s in)
Install body bushings
Finish seat brackets
Wire some fancy features
Sound deaden interior
Install carpet
Build center console
Dye and paint the rest of the panels/headliner
Get new back seat
Weld up all the holes in the roof, DA it and paint it (Attempt to shittily blend in the Oxford White)
Install drive train
Install / Fabricate hydraulic clutch
Fabricate front bumper mounts
Put the rest of the nose on
Redo the loom on all of the harness'
Lay two wheel peels for days.

Big steam.

[gadget73]

Box rotors are around 10 1/2 inches. The 98-02 stuff was a smoot over 12". I think the 03+ parts are also close to that size. Box brakes suck, no two ways about it.

[Mr Bean]

Box brakes suck but stop better than Aero brakes.

[gadget73]

No reason for that to be true. They're about the same size on the early roundies, and the 95-97 had slightly bigger rotors. Rear discs on the aero too, which may not actually work better but chances are much better they are working vs the drums that nobody ever services.

[pantera77]

No reason for that to be true. They're about the same size on the early roundies, and the 95-97 had slightly bigger rotors. Rear discs on the aero too, which may not actually work better but chances are much better they are working vs the drums that nobody ever services.

It shouldn't be true, but Serge is right. I flip flop between driving my 91 and 92, and while the brakes on both suck, the 91 stops way better.

[gadget73]

Weight difference maybe? Could also be valving, if there is less pressure to the rear it'll act more feeble. Dunno. The only wheel time I have in an aero was the 5.0 swapped 92, and thats been quite some bit of time too. I don't remember the brakes being particularly feeble in it, though I don't recall them being amazing either. I haven't driven a box with stock brakes in a long time though so my frame of reference might be a little off. I remember them being excessively touchy but thats about it. The 92's brakes I don't recall being nearly so grabby.

[sly]

my 93 stops WAY THE HELL BETTER than the 88. The 88 just locks up faster. The 2000 with the ABS and big brakes stops better than all of them by a long shot.

Also, the 88 has shit tires... so that could be a big part of it.

[Bobcat]

Got all the body bushings in without any major problems, I was going to machine them down, did one and decided I didn't want to cut them. Took off the front suspension like I previously said, I'll get to that whenever I have time.. Maybe today. I'm going to grind the front frame section down and paint it it all.

Oh and I'm using X-O Rust paint.

Yes I know there's paint missing around the base of the bushings. That's because I had the old bushings holding the body on and they decided to peel off the second layer of paint. I'll touch it up.

[sly]

gonna be a hella nice box when done. Both of my cars (93 and 88) could stand body mounts... but yeah... beater gonna beat and not dent the wallet.

[P72Ford]

The red mounts???

Where is the 'brake guy'?

[Bobcat]

The red mounts???

Where is the 'brake guy'?

Red means performance, guy. Simsbury, Herman Drive. Like 500 feet from Nick's shop. Real good guy, my father has ordered a bunch of shit and I'm pretty good buddies with him, he'll do whatever patterns you want.



Sanded down all of the paint and rust on the front left hand side frame rail tonight. Then used Permatex Rust Dissolver on the last bit of surface rust, wiped it off, wiped it with acetone a couple times and then applied a light coat of X-O Rust. Tomorrow I'll get started on the right hand side and then move onto the crossmember. By the end of the week I hope to have it all pristine, painted and restored. Waiting on my new front coils.