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    Give you credit for taking on something that's been neglected, and a good thing you got to her when you did. From what you describe it was one of those cars that was just parked in a field or under a tree for a while. That's where problems begin, and where cars' lives get cut short. Will say that trunk floor from '98 to at least '02 should interchange. Maybe '03-'11 will fit, and maybe some pre '98 stuff will work, though you'd want to bring measuring tools to confirm first. How and where did the roof rust? I don't see a vinyl top in the pictures, so unless it had a ton of plants and leaves, or some scrapes that exposed bare metal, I don't see how or where it could've started.

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    I may have saved the trunk floor. time will tell. The paint just started flaking on the roof. a strong thunderstorm and it would lose paint and then the rust would begin.

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    Good thing, because that's not a fun piece to replace from what I've been told. Will be going through with that with Eva next year at some point. And ah yeah, the peeling clearcoat phenomenon, forgot about that on the later cars. Least the roof is an easy area to get to for corrective work!

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    YEAH i will say a prayer for you on that floor lol There is a local paint shop that offers a complete sand down and repaint for $399.99 plus tax. It is acrylic paint and comes with a one year warranty. What do yall think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Mercury View Post
    YEAH i will say a prayer for you on that floor lol There is a local paint shop that offers a complete sand down and repaint for $399.99 plus tax. It is acrylic paint and comes with a one year warranty. What do yall think?
    Cheap paint looks cruddy and makes it worse down the road because it has to come off at some point to make things right. I would stay away. May check with them to see what other options they have in terms of paint types.

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    please keep in mind i know absolutely nothing about paint. they offer a two base plus clear coat or something for $1,199.00

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    Acrylic paint is similar to what was used back in the 70s and 80s IIRC and if you got a dent, would chip off around that dent. Two base plus clear would be better. Sanded and prepped, primed, smoothed, primed, 4-6 base coats and 4 clear coats would be even better, but that would also be rather spendy. Obviously, if you plan on keeping the car forever, the latter would be preferred. If you're planning to sell it in short order, the cheap "Good from far, far from good" job would work. If you plan on keeping it for a good while, go for the 2 base + clear. If you just can't budget a really good job, go for the 2 base + clear if you can.

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    yeah i do plan on keeping it so i will fit that in later down the road. did this over the weekend too

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    clear headlights make a big difference.

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    well, financial set back number 1.. My daily is a prius and the battery failed.

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    Bah.

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    Well Hello my fellow Panthers.

    Life update:
    After buying and having a prius battery installed and the trans completely failing on my GM, I decided to marry my girlfriend and buy a house. Now that we are happily married and moved in and the holidays are over with, it is now time to get back at it.

    Now some transmission advice please. I am looking at Monster 4r70w models but they are over $1,000 and say they only hold 460hp. Why should I go with that over a stock with j-mod and a converter?

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    Congratulations on getting married!

    I would lean towards getting a stock rebuild unless you have some serious mods planned for that MGM. But I will let the more knowledgeable members point you in the direction you should go. This looks like a nice project.

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    Hey Thanks!

    The plan is to be 350-400 crank hp through the next year. Trans, gear and nitrous with my MZT (tuned) will be done in the next 90 days and then just slowly add/replace from there as things break or need improving.

    If someone else has other info, please share, but from what I have found, the stock remans are more expensive than 450 hp rated built transmissions from like JEGS or Monster.

    Found these two. They both have under 140k on the odometer and the magnets have no shavings. $139.00 with my core turn in. Could J-mod one of these and ride that for a while huh?

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    I'd grab one of those used ones, J-mod it and run the shit out of it.

    You'll need boost to have 400hp crank.


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    Now that's whats up!

    I'm going for it. Is there a difference in the 99 or 01 trans? just go with the lower mileage one?

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    I know they changed the valve body in '01. That was also the year the engines changed from NPI to PI. I'm guessing that if the '01 could be made to work, it would be too big of a PITA. Here's a link with a couple of links to tranny difference info:

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    They're plug and play.

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    Perfect. Thank you. I wanted to go yesterday but could not get anyone to help me so now I have to wait till this coming Sunday.

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    Attempted to pull a trans out of the you-pull-it yard yesterday. Jacks and jack stands are not allowed. No way to jack the transmission up and the trans cross-member bolt on the passenger side hits the bottom of the car and cannot be removed.

    Any suggestions? Thanks

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