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    Default Yet another noob reporting, from the land of sausage and vodka

    Good morning/afternoon/evening/whatever is the time of the day where you live!

    I have just joined the board, so I can share the story of my new ride - a rather scarce one I presume (well, definitely very scarce not even in Poland, but in the EU in general): a 87' MGM LS Colony Park. It is actually MY'88, but the car was manufactured in the end of 1987, I suppose, so it already has the "blobby" beak. As far as I know, the car was built in Canada and used there for a few years, and then was shipped to Poland, where it supposedly served as a hearse (most of the USDM wagons in EU are used as The Last Ride, some companies even advertise it as a "premium burial", lol) for a number of years. Then it was bought by another person, and another, etc. being used mostly as a weekend ride for amcar/classic car meetings. I got mine hands on it like a month ago, and my journey through the "why does it not work as it should" hell started...

    At the moment I am preparing to have it sent to a bodywork specialist, so they can refurbish the frame and the underbelly. One of the previous owners has put a lot of anti-rust paint/tar, blocking the water outlets. I guess that you know what it means...

    Nuff talking. I am off to the forums, searching for the most urgent pieces of knowledge, but as soon as I am a bit less busy with the work assignments, I will shoot some more photos, and tell ya the story of "The Colon", as the car is nicknamed, and how I spent 10 years searching for USDM versions of older EU cars, before finally getting myself a real one



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    Welcome to the forum.

    Nice ride! Liking the steelside.
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    Thanks! I have some hints that the car was originally a blue one, possibly with the woodpanels, and was later repainted. I will probably know more after the car is stripped for welding.

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    If the original driver door tag is still there it can tell you the color.
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    Welcome!

    Good looking ride there. You're in the right part to have your "why does it not work as it should" questions answered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bnw View Post
    ...a 87' MGM LS Colony Park. It is actually MY'88, but the car was manufactured in the end of 1987,...
    Welcome to the forum! I always love seeing new boxes on here, even if they are wagons :P

    Your car is indeed an '88. They start making the new model year cars late in the year before, just like your car, which is an early '88 build. My '88 Town Car was built in September of '87 if I recall right.
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    The 1988 MY actually started fairly early in 1987, sometime around May I think. Usually it starts around October. Not sure why, but Ford ran a short 1987 MY and switched over to 1988 production months ahead of what is typical.

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    88 was a redesign for the ford and merc...maybe to give them some extra time.
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    Very nice car! Welcome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget73 View Post
    The 1988 MY actually started fairly early in 1987, sometime around May I think. Usually it starts around October. Not sure why, but Ford ran a short 1987 MY and switched over to 1988 production months ahead of what is typical.

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    And from what I've seen, there's even a split on early and late '87 stuff, seemingly as a ramp up towards the overall exterior and interior refresh. My '87 is a February car and had the early style, vertical slat only air vents that like to get floppy. Found an April or so build '87 that was using the updated style seen in '88-'89 cars, except in black versus interior color. It also used the more modern plastic style vapor barriers between the door and door panel compared to the old paper style stuff my car had.


    @OP: Welcome to the forum. Car looks solid in the photos! Hopefully when you have it gone through, whatever is found isn't too bad to deal with.

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    May have been a case of just using up old style parts through the 87 MY run.

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    Did you put the Galpin license plate frame on or was it already on the car ? Galpin is a huge Ford dealer that also has many other car brand dealerships (lincoln Mercury etc ) down the same road. It is located in the San Fernando Valley in Los Angeles. If the car had the frame on it, it is very possible it was sold and used in the Los Angeles area. The shipping ports are in Long Beach or San Pedro which is pretty close. That is more than likely where it was shipped out of the country from.

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    Looks like a nice ride.

    The lack of the wheel arch trim usually gives me a hint that the car was in woodgrain trim when it rolled off the line. I haven’t seen enough real no wood post-87 Merc Wagons to verify that.

    On the Ford, you can tell woodgrain, which shows a different trim code (P76 or 77 for no wood, P78 or 79 for wood, 87+). Again, not sure on the Merc.

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    Hello, everyone!

    Thank you for a quick response and warm welcome words. A quick set of answers for ya:

    --> got a photo of the manufacturer's plaque, it is in the photos' section. Body paint: 7N in the upper, 74K in the lower position. So, originally a dark shadow blue + wooden panels, I guess? The interior trim section reads YB. The plaque itself looks like someone has painted its edges a bit, and the paint is in general, dunno, weird? I mean, it looks more like a tin toy, the colour is very shiny and "alive". This could, however be a result of most of the newer cars being either panther black, or pearl black, so I have a wrong impression in my head;

    --> the car was mfd in Nov. 87, so yes, it just falls under the 88 MY. Same as my 760, this one was produced in October/November 1987 and is one of the first post-facelift units built - this being a nice coincidence actually;
    --> got the Galpin frame for another project, a 960 Turbo which I believed was a USDM one because of the burgundy leather interior. As it turned out, this one was made for Italy actually, and the plate frame remained as a prop on the garage wall. I got it from a ~2013 S60 USDM, which was sold in parts some 2 years ago, it comes complete with a GALPIN VOLVO "fake" plate - seemingly from the moment that Volvo was owned by Ford. I was looking for another one to put it on the front bumper, but no success was achieved so far.

    Aaand the photos. MF plaque + some shots from today. The car was washed 2 or 3 days ago, and spent the whole time in the garage, waiting for a useful parking lot on the street. With more than 5.5 metres of length, and construction laws that order the real estate developers to build only around 50% parking space as an underground garage/excluded, non-public parking lots (in relation to the amount of apartments a new building has) it is not that easy to find one

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    Oooh, you've got a brick Volvo "problem" aswell. I know the differences a 700-series US-spec, but what differences would there be for a 960 (and S60)?
    Any reasons other than visual to want US-spec European cars?

    Anyways, welcome to the forums, nice to see more people from Europe!
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    I can tell a few things from your door tag.

    The M79 in the VIN tells me this is a Colony Park. There is also an M78 code. I am unsure if the difference, but would guess it is similar to the sedan GS/LS trim versions. It might be the woodgrain difference, but that was more of a delete option on the Colony Park in my opinion and I doubt it would get its own VIN code in that case.

    The 74K tells us it’s a wagon. I think we knew that lol.

    The YB is the interior color, and is midnight blue, in cloth on a split bench.

    The F tells me your car had an electronic AM/FM no cassette.

    The axle code Z is 3.08 with traction-lok. Relatively uncommon to see. I personally like that gear for a highway cruiser.

    Your DSO 41 is Chicago, which means the order for the vehicle was originally from that area. More than likely, the car spent its first days there, although not always 100% guaranteed. Canadian cars have a different DSO, as do export to other country cars.

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    Welcome. Nice car with a neat story so far. Good luck with it.
    The amount of info in these forums and in the minds of some of these Panther lovers still amazes me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggie View Post
    I can tell a few things from your door tag.

    The M79 in the VIN tells me this is a Colony Park. There is also an M78 code. I am unsure if the difference, but would guess it is similar to the sedan GS/LS trim versions. It might be the woodgrain difference, but that was more of a delete option on the Colony Park in my opinion and I doubt it would get its own VIN code in that case.

    The 74K tells us it’s a wagon. I think we knew that lol.

    The YB is the interior color, and is midnight blue, in cloth on a split bench.

    The F tells me your car had an electronic AM/FM no cassette.

    The axle code Z is 3.08 with traction-lok. Relatively uncommon to see. I personally like that gear for a highway cruiser.

    Your DSO 41 is Chicago, which means the order for the vehicle was originally from that area. More than likely, the car spent its first days there, although not always 100% guaranteed. Canadian cars have a different DSO, as do export to other country cars.
    Thank you very much! The radio unit is an electronic one, with AM (medium) and FM tuners, but a cassette player is also present. It is an original Ford unit with US frequency tuning. Speaking of Chicago: I am aware that there is a large number of Polish expats living there, so it would be quite a sensible idea to search for a car overseas using some help from a fellow-countrymen, I guess - especially some 25 years ago.




    Quote Originally Posted by Arquemann View Post
    Oooh, you've got a brick Volvo "problem" aswell. I know the differences a 700-series US-spec, but what differences would there be for a 960 (and S60)?
    Any reasons other than visual to want US-spec European cars?
    Humm, the 960 pre-facelift would go like this, I guess:

    A) Certain differences;
    -> headlights and front blinkers;
    -> fender blinkers replaced with plastic Volvo logos;
    -> gasoline engines choice limited to inline-sixes only;
    -> instrument cluster;
    -> AC control panel scaled in F instead of C;
    -> left switch panel with "unleaded fuel only" written as a standard;
    -> US-specific radio unit with no RDS.

    B) Possible differences:
    -> no diesel engines available (not sure about that);
    -> airbag availability (as a standard?);
    -> aerial semi-automatic with a switch located in the dashboard (all radio units have the full-auto option built in, but I saw the US ones to be equipped with a switch, that allows to use the radio unit whilst the aerial is retracted);
    -> certain body paint and interior colours available/not available (there was a highly popular, blueish green colour that was much more scarce in case of the EU ones);
    -> service & maintenance stickers;
    -> plastic "fake lights" for the tailgate, the 940 had one as an option, I guess it should have a hole the size of a US plate, not the EU one;
    -> doors-not-closed beeper.

    I guess that should do, but I am not entirely certain. Not sure about S60s, they are a bit too new for me. I would guess - instrument cluster, headlights and blinkers, "fake taillights", bumpers?

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    bnw You do qwn a 88 wagon due to it being assembled after July of 1987, any American car manufactured before July like for example my car was built 4/1990 and that makes my car a 1990 LTD Crown Victoria if it was after July a 1991.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bnw View Post
    Humm, the 960 pre-facelift would go like this, I guess:

    A) Certain differences;
    -> headlights and front blinkers;
    -> fender blinkers replaced with plastic Volvo logos;
    -> gasoline engines choice limited to inline-sixes only;
    -> instrument cluster;
    -> AC control panel scaled in F instead of C;
    -> left switch panel with "unleaded fuel only" written as a standard;
    -> US-specific radio unit with no RDS.

    B) Possible differences:
    -> no diesel engines available (not sure about that);
    -> airbag availability (as a standard?);
    -> aerial semi-automatic with a switch located in the dashboard (all radio units have the full-auto option built in, but I saw the US ones to be equipped with a switch, that allows to use the radio unit whilst the aerial is retracted);
    -> certain body paint and interior colours available/not available (there was a highly popular, blueish green colour that was much more scarce in case of the EU ones);
    -> service & maintenance stickers;
    -> plastic "fake lights" for the tailgate, the 940 had one as an option, I guess it should have a hole the size of a US plate, not the EU one;
    -> doors-not-closed beeper.

    I guess that should do, but I am not entirely certain. Not sure about S60s, they are a bit too new for me. I would guess - instrument cluster, headlights and blinkers, "fake taillights", bumpers?
    Kinda what I expected, then there's the weirder things like the engine choices and most of what you listed under B. Americans missed so much fun having barely any diesel cars. D24TIC <3
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