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    Thanks for that link, Justin. I think that answers all my questions.
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    someone tell me how to install on ein my tc, i can get like 4 of em, theyre everywhere at my yard
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    I need help, lol!

    I'm having issues with routing the wiring and connectors not reaching when others are plugged in. Also, is the Tripminder harness on a SEFI car different than a CFI car?
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    CFI wiring works fine on SEFI car. Only difference is that extra black wire loop on the Tripminders plug (check my old thread for that info).

    Paul, to reach that blue wire, you need to get all the slack you can from the original clock wiring harness that comes from the dash. Run your wiring from the Tripminder down towards the stereo and straight over to the blue wire behind the speedo. Plenty of room that way.

    Of the two lower plugs on the harness, only the one with three wires will be plugged in. Leave the two-wire plug hang. Go over my thread about the installation, again. I had questions about that issue, as well.

    If you have anything else, let me know.

    EDIT: I just seen that SuperMotors lost all my damn pics in that thread. If you need reference pics, let me know. Don't think I'll have time tonight.
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    When you get a chance to reload the pics, that'd be awesome. I thought I had saved them, but I didn't. Thanks!

    I tried making my life easy and removing the metal plate on top, and all I succeeded in doing was dropping 3 sockets down into the dash. My thinking was that if I removed the metal plate, I could run the wiring easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monterey1962
    Of the two lower plugs on the harness, only the one with three wires will be plugged in. Leave the two-wire plug hang.

    this was probably only true in your case Im thinking becuase you have dealer added cruise. The reason that end of the tripminder harness has two plugs (there has to be a reason its there...) is becuase that end of the tripminder harness acts like a bridge for the existing connector in the car.
    Normally, you will find a connector to take apart, then plug one end of the tripminder harness end into one side, then the other end into the other side.

    This is how it is in mine (except I have no fuel flow wire in it) and how it was in the box I took the tripminder out of.

    Monty, the only reason I can guess that you didnt have both sides is becuase your box had no need for a fuel flow or speed signal circuits when it left the factory.


    huge pic of tripminder wire harness

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    85crownHPP*, what is this manual you have and where did you get it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul229
    I tried making my life easy and removing the metal plate on top, and all I succeeded in doing was dropping 3 sockets down into the dash. My thinking was that if I removed the metal plate, I could run the wiring easier.
    No, no, no. That metal plate isn't worth all the trouble, at all. Go down from the TM towards the stereo and over. It's all open down there.
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    Paul, I updated the pics. LINK to thread.
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    fat nasty - i got that out of an EVTM (electric & vacuum troubleshooting manual) ford makes one for every car every year - i got mine off Ebay. They are goldmine if you are trying to do custum electronics or troubleshoot something gone wrong.
    I have a thread in the CFI archives that I add any pics I take of my evtm

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    Justin, thanks!!! Those pics answered all my questions. Now for one last question. How exactly did you wire that loop in? Did you solder it?
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    I took the black loop from the EFI harness and put it in place of the of the black wire on the CFI harness. Those metal "slivers" that are on the end of the wires and stick into the plastic plug are held in by plastic clips. The black loop and black wire are on the same "sliver". I simply pulled them out of the EFI plug and slipped them into the CFI plug. Then, I tapped the original black wire (as can be seen in pics in other thread).

    If you look through the end of the CFI's plastic plug, you'll see that the "port" for the black loop is empty. An easy way to do this is to find one of those "slivers" for the empty port. You'll probably need one that clips in and ensures contact with the TM. Check the ends of other plugs (clock, harnesses, etc.) and see if there is one you can steal from there. Probably have to hit the junk yard to find some extra "slivers" to fit.

    Hope that helps.

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    :bump:

    Thanks one and all, I successfully installed my Tripminder using my "modified" CFI Tripminder harness.

    And in the process somehow I knocked off the spring for the gear indicator and didn't figure it out until the dash was back together.
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    So we have CFI and SEFI Tripminder install.

    For future info, I have a VV car with a tripminder. It's possible that with a carb conversion, you could still use your tripminder. My car, after all, doesn't have an ECM. The Tripminder doesn't use any of the functions off of the MCU, either. I ran my car without the MCU and the tripminder still worked.

    If anyone is interested, maybe I can open up my dash and check out how it's wired.
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    Tiggie, that would be a great help for some of the carb'ed members here.
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    Must have an in-line fuel flow sensor somewhere perhaps? Hmmmm.

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    I was kind of wondering that myself. I want to one day put a carbed 351 in but i dont think i could stand loosing the tripminder.


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    I'll see if I can look into it next weekend, then.

    BTW, it's accurate, however it gets it's information.
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    BUMP for great justice...



    And because I want this thread bookmarked in case I score a tripminder for this '87 wagon next weekend.

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