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    minimum fan cfm

    Looking at installing an electric fan that's basically bring given to me for free. It makes 1600cfm.

    Link to it on summit http://m.summitracing.com/parts/mar-m166k

    I live in Ontario. Hottest I've ever seen it is 100 degrees F, summertime is usually more like 80-90.

    Should that be enough? I know it's on the low side but I've never heard of a functioning box panther overheating in these conditions, and my coolant, radiator, thermostat, etc. are all pretty new.

    85 4 door 351 Civi Crown Victoria - Summer daily driver, sleeper in the making, and wildly inappropriate autocross machine
    160KMs 600cfm holley, shorty headers, 2.5" catted exhaust, 255/295 tires, cop shocks, cop swaybars, underdrive pulley, 2.73L gears.
    waiting for install: 3.27's, Poly bushings, boxed rear arms, 2500 stall converter, ported e7's, etc

    06 Mazda 3 hatch 2.3L 5AT (winter beater that cost more than my summer car)
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    I doubt it. I had 2 fans on the Mark VI (one 16 inch similar to this one AND one 12 inch) and it wouldn't stay cool at highway speeds at all. Swapped the stock fan back in with a good clutch and worked like a champ. You'll want to look for something that will push more than 2500CFM and preferably over 3000CFM to be able to match and exceed the stock fan.

    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
    rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

    Originally posted by gadget73
    ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

    Originally posted by dmccaig
    Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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      #3
      These definitely need a fan that provides good airflow; Ashley's '89 TC is in need of a new fan clutch (ordered) and we think that's what's been causing it to run hot in the summer months.
      1985 LTD Crown Victoria - SOLD
      1988 Town Car Signature - Current Party Barge

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        #4
        If that will work as a pusher fan, it would probably make your AC work better in traffic.
        86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
        5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

        91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

        1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

        Originally posted by phayzer5
        I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

        Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it works

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          #5
          I think the 16" fan is too wide to mount nicely with the center bar on the boxes between the upper and lower rad support.

          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
          rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

          Originally posted by gadget73
          ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

          Originally posted by dmccaig
          Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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            #6
            A/c is not working and will need some stuff, so that's not worthwhile.
            Maybe I could run this as a dual pusher setup? Probably too big though...

            85 4 door 351 Civi Crown Victoria - Summer daily driver, sleeper in the making, and wildly inappropriate autocross machine
            160KMs 600cfm holley, shorty headers, 2.5" catted exhaust, 255/295 tires, cop shocks, cop swaybars, underdrive pulley, 2.73L gears.
            waiting for install: 3.27's, Poly bushings, boxed rear arms, 2500 stall converter, ported e7's, etc

            06 Mazda 3 hatch 2.3L 5AT (winter beater that cost more than my summer car)

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              #7
              Find a Mark VIII fan

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                #8
                or use an 01-03 fan (same basic idea, but without the dual coil - uses a resistor for the low speed).

                Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                Originally posted by gadget73
                ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                Originally posted by dmccaig
                Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                  #9
                  Yeah sounds like making this work isn't worth it.

                  85 4 door 351 Civi Crown Victoria - Summer daily driver, sleeper in the making, and wildly inappropriate autocross machine
                  160KMs 600cfm holley, shorty headers, 2.5" catted exhaust, 255/295 tires, cop shocks, cop swaybars, underdrive pulley, 2.73L gears.
                  waiting for install: 3.27's, Poly bushings, boxed rear arms, 2500 stall converter, ported e7's, etc

                  06 Mazda 3 hatch 2.3L 5AT (winter beater that cost more than my summer car)

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                    #10
                    The Mark VIII fan and the late model Panther fan are huge power whores. I'd skip both of those, too much startup load. I had problems running one even with a 3g alternator, to the point that I upgraded to a stock clutch fan to make the noise and the dimming headlights go away. The Contour fan has a drop resistor in it, much softer starts on low speed.

                    Honestly I'm not sold on electric fans. I don't like the temperature swings they induce, nor do I like the control systems required. I've had stuff overheat from burned out fan relays before. Clutch fans are not fancy but they fail much more gradually, not just a sudden FU, boil-over while sitting at a drive-through.
                    86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                    5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                    91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                    1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                    Originally posted by phayzer5
                    I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

                    Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it works

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                      #11
                      +1 50A power whore for the panther fan. The AC system actually puts more of a drain on the accessories though... at least on my 93. But yeah... power WHORE. 26.5A under continuous run in High. At least for the Dorman fan.

                      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                      rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                      Originally posted by gadget73
                      ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                      Originally posted by dmccaig
                      Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                        #12
                        My brother has been going through this with his f-150HD. Problem is that he can't put his stock clutch fan back on now because he's running the wrong water pump! I like my old 5.0 more and more every day. Say, has anyone run a bigger radiator and still used the stock clutch fan? The stock radiator does fine on this thing but once I start adding power I'm afraid it may not cut the mustard. Do want to stick with a clutch fan though, fuck those electric ones after what I've been seeing.

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                          #13
                          I have I think a 2 core brass out of an 85 police car on mine. I remember installing a 4 core into a car once, but that had electric fans and Explorer accessories. The radiator was massive, but I don't think it was enough thicker to be a problem with the stock fan. That was probably too much radiator though. Cruising on the highway in the summer with the AC on you could still watch the thermostat open and close by the temperature gauge movements. No idea where that thing came from either.

                          I have been considering adding a pusher fan to mine, mostly for the AC. I have underdrive pullies, so at idle I get fairly feeble AC performance. Part of it is slower compressor speeds, but the slow fan speed doesn't help it any. One nice thing about the Lincoln is the extra room in front of the radiator support for such silliness.
                          86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                          5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                          91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                          1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                          Originally posted by phayzer5
                          I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

                          Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it works

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                            #14
                            Depending on what happens in the next year-ish, I may just get an HO motor, have it gone through, and drop it in the car. If I can figure it out, I plan to run the HO accessory setup too, to accommodate future silliness. Only downside is that I end up reverse-rotation fan and have to use the shitty plastic mustang fan unless I can find a RR metal fan that moves enough air. Since the new motor will be modified, continuously, I want to allow myself room to grow in the cooling system. I dunno, we'll see how things come together. May just do the whole top end on the LOPO and convert it to HO. Figure if I stick some aluminum heads on it with 58cc chambers, the compression boost will help tremendously, as well as a cam, my typhoon intake and the heads would really wake the old turd up.

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                              #15
                              03+ Panther fans cool nicely. I am running dual fans from a Dodge Stratus. They pull a lot of air.

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