Deeper transmission fluid pans

[grandpaslincoln]

Personally I would go with a cooler, I would be weary of a deeper pan, especially around pot holes and bumps and stuff. I got a cooler, it works goooood


But, to each is own mang

[Fordman75]

If I stay with with the C4 in my LTD I'm going with the deep pan, the largest cooler I can get and dual remote filters(basically the same kit as the engine kit ). With all those items I'll be increasing the trans fluid capacity by roughly 6 1/2- 7 quarts.

This isn't needed in any mild car. But I drive my vehicles hard, I basically beat the hell out of them. I've burnt up my share of auto transmissions. So anything I can do to keep them going is worth the $$.

[zwack88]

Evil why you worried about a cooler? I thought the the P72's already had a tranny cooler? I know the 92-current have them.

[Paul_]

Usually, the OEM stuff leaves alot to be desired. Especially in a 15 year old car.

[gadget73]

yeah my stock p72 cooler isn't the best. Its a million percent better than nothing but at some time in the future I'd like to install a larger one. The stocker unit isn't really that big.

[Blaze86Vic]

yeah my stock p72 cooler isn't the best.

So when has it fallen short? Keep in mind folks that our radiators have trans coller in them as well. So extra coolers are just that extra, not worth any ultra effort, if you were circle tracking then 2-3 nice sized coolers would be nice, but besides that, 1 extra cooler is plenty.

Wanna do something nice for your car, put an oil cooler on!

[DuceAnAHalf]

Oil cooler? nah i dont really want a 9-10 quart oil change. i already hold about 8.5qts If i get one i might get an oil-water cooler off the newer P71s, we put one on my brothers T-bird, required the use of a J-bend exhaust tube.

[Archangel]

yeah my stock p72 cooler isn't the best. Its a million percent better than nothing but at some time in the future I'd like to install a larger one. The stocker unit isn't really that big.

True, but it's much bigger than the silly loop you have for a PS cooler. When buying a new tranny cooler look for something that is tall and not too wide, you put that where your stocker was, the move the stocker to the bottom right of the radiator support (IIRC both holes required to bolt it in are already there, conveniently placed exactly where you want them) and hook up the PS lines to it. Don't remember if you use A/C or not, but this way both coolers will clear the condenser pretty nicely.

For the oil cooler, what do I need to install one? I assume the cooler itself (is it any different than tranny coolers), some kind of an adapter for where the stock filter was, and some new remote mount for the filter, correct?

[gadget73]

yeah my stock p72 cooler isn't the best.

So when has it fallen short? Keep in mind folks that our radiators have trans coller in them as well. So extra coolers are just that extra, not worth any ultra effort, if you were circle tracking then 2-3 nice sized coolers would be nice, but besides that, 1 extra cooler is plenty.

Wanna do something nice for your car, put an oil cooler on!

I'd like to do one of those oil to water coolers like 88grandmarq has on his car off a Mustang police car / TurboCoupe. I don't really want an oil to air cooler.

And the only reason I say its "not the best", it isn't really very large. Most aftermarket coolers are larger, and are easier to locate. I would never suggest locating a 15+ year old transmission cooler to anyone for practical purposes when an aftermarket one is more than suited to the task. I would not double up the cooler if I were to replace it, simply swap the existing one for a larger unit.

Also, considering I do tow with my car from time to time, I can get away with using a larger cooler.

[Blaze86Vic]

I would never suggest locating a 15+ year old transmission cooler to anyone for practical purposes when an aftermarket one is more than suited to the task.

Good point there, since most aftermarket coolers are pretty damn cheap....and like a hypocrite, I have wanted to replace mine as well....

And oil to air cooler is very good! I used to have the PI one on my Vic, and the pressure NEVER dropped no matter how long I drove. It's well worth it, I have the adapter somewhere still, just need to caugh up and replace the cooler, which if I do I will replace the tranny cooler as well.

[gadget73]

I'm just concerned about over-cooling the oil. I guess I could get away with running 5W-30 with a cooler. I just don't want it too thick to properly lubricate. Also, keeping the oil too cool keeps moisture from being able to cook out of it. Actually just for the sake of knowlege I should find some way to do up an oil temp sensor. I'm curious what mine runs at normally.

[turbo2256A]

I would go with the deeper trans pan on the AOD. They are available aftermarket but the factory 4 wheel drive pans hold an extra quart or two (dont remember exactly). They also have a different filter/pickup assembly. The deeper 4 weel drive pick up isnt really necessary but for serious cornering or hill climbs it should be used, less chance of uncovering the pick up. small oil cooler should also be used it will drasticly increase trans life. A trans external filter is another add on that should be considered and a trans temp gage which can be purchased with or without the filter kit. Trans fluid temps should run around 175 or less a 20 degree rise can cut fluid life by half. 250 degrees will dammage the seals. 300 degrees and the trans burns up in 1000 to 1500 miles

[Grand Marquis GT]

I would go with the deeper trans pan on the AOD. They are available aftermarket but the factory 4 wheel drive pans hold an extra quart or two (dont remember exactly). They also have a different filter/pickup assembly. The deeper 4 weel drive pick up isnt really necessary but for serious cornering or hill climbs it should be used, less chance of uncovering the pick up. small oil cooler should also be used it will drasticly increase trans life. A trans external filter is another add on that should be considered and a trans temp gage which can be purchased with or without the filter kit.

No kidding? Good info!

[turbo2256A]

Added some info to my last post so reread please

[turbo2256A]

Water cooled trans coolers not the best because engine coolat temps reach over 175 degrees.