Box panther Pedal assembly Removal?

[87gtVIC]

Wanna pick one up on my next junkyard trip for my 87. Any advice on removing them? I've never done it before and would like to remove it as painless as possible. Looking on how to remove 89 and older pedal assemblies only.

Also the brake booster as I want to snatch up a 1998 to 2002 NON abs booster.

Thanks

[Bobcat]

Booster is three nuts to take off, then pull it out. Then you'll most likely have to drop the column which is 4-5 9/16 bolts. Everything is 9/16 if I remember. Oh. You'll have to take all the electronics that are bolted to it off. Then unhook the booster and pull the booster off from the engine bay side. Then the brake pedal assembly will just fall out.

Personally.. I'd just take yours out. It took me 20 mins to build mine, drill one hole, weld in the tube and done.. You don't daily your car and I did the entire "swap" in four days, at a slow but steady pace.

[gadget73]

I think its actually 4 nuts for the booster, but either way they are a bastard to access. Maybe with different tools than I had in my hands last time I did one its not so bad, but I just remember poor access and a small fraction of a turn at a time to get those things undone. You're not as fat as I am though so you may fit better.

[sly]

Those 4 booster nuts are cake with a deep socket and impact u-joint.

[87gtVIC]

Booster done/removed from inside the vehicle against the firewall?...and is holding some of the pedal assembly in place at the same time?

Reason for getting another pedal assembly is so I can just prep it up and paint it and store it until I plan to swap it in on a whim.

[gadget73]

The booster unbolts from under the dash. Its got 4 studs sticking out of it, and they simply go through the firewall and have nuts on the inside where the brake pedal bracket is. Remove them and it falls off. Thats also half of what holds the pedals in, yeah. The other couple are hooked to the column somehow in a way that I have honestly never bothered to look into. I think its just a clamp there towards the back.



I seem to remember the biggest bitch of the booster nuts is getting them started again. Spinning them off and on is not so bad, but you have to get your hand in there to get it started. Helps if someone holds the booster up at the right angle from under the hood. it pitches downward otherwise.

[Mr Bean]

The booster is held with four nuts (15mm I think) from inside. They can be accessed using a long socket and a couple of extensions. Whether or not you will be able to get to the bolts with dash in place is another question. When I did the 85' it was a pain in the nuts. It's a lot easier on 92+ models. Once you get the 4 nuts off there is a metal clip that holds the pedal and brake light switch to the booster. Take the clip off and booster comes out.

Now to get the actual pedals off, I honestly don't know if you will be able to do it with dash in place. The gas pedal is easy. It's just attached to the firewall with a couple of nuts. The brake pedal though is a bear. I remember on the 85' it looked like a contraption the way it was mounted to the car.

[pantera77]

You can easily do it with the dash in place. It's not the most fun job, but it's not hard.

[Bobcat]

Yes, four. My bad.

It's really not too hard. I had my pedals in and out a few times. Honestly, I'd just do the swap all at once. Why waste your time installing and removing pedals atleast three times? (Donor car removal, your car removal, your car installed + how ever many times it takes to dial in the correct amount cut from the dash) The dash isn't in the way much at all. Just the wires everywhere is a bastard. I used a deep socket, rag joint and 1 foot extension for some and a 6" for the others.

Plus. Trans is direct bolt in (other than the bolts you'll need to order or cut. For the top of the bell.) Drill two holes in the tranny brackets and you're mint. plus the hole in the floor.

MAKE SURE YOU GET AN AFTERMARKET ADJUSTABLE CABLE AND SHIFTER TOWER. - Regrets.

[87gtVIC]

By tranny bracket you mean transmission cross-member to frame ears right?

Thanks everyone so far for the information.

[gadget73]

I just figure it has something to do with that surgery she's got planned.

[Bobcat]

By tranny bracket you mean transmission cross-member to frame ears right?

Thanks everyone so far for the information.

Yeah. You drill a new hole on each bracket, in the middle of the two holes that are there already.

Do it all in one shot. I could make you a pretty good list of parts that you'll need.. Since I'm the most recent to do it.

Adjustable clutch cable is key.

[pantera77]

Do you mean a firewall adjuster? Or an adjustable quadrant?

On mine I put the firewall adjuster almost all the way out.

[86VickyLX]

Booster part is easy. Removing the assembly requires the removal of the column, or the front seat. If you don't want to remove the column for the car, you need to remove the front seat, because you can't get the column down low enough to get the assembly down and out. At least in the two cases I've swapped out/removed the pedal assemblies it was.

Remove the 4 booster nuts. You can do this easily with a universal and a 14mm deep well sockets and some various length extensions...

Remove the driver front seat, 4 Phillips head screws, 4 13mm or 15mm bolts and T50 bolt for seatbelts.

You have to unbolt the steering column, the 4 nuts you would undo when you're doing a heater core 15mm deep socket. Obviously undo the shift indicator, and unplug all electrical connections and undo any zipties on the column, or else it won't lower to the floor.

You also need to undo a bracket that holds the wiper control module, the cruise control module (stand alone systems), and the cornering lamp relays (if equipped) That has one brake rotor nut (I don't know the technical name. It's similar to the thing you'd find on brakes that have never been replaced before), and one 10mm bolt that's located on the left side of the dash on the body. It's really far up there, above the bolt that holds the parking brake mechanism.

The pedal assembly is actually part of steering column support. There are two brake rotor nuts holding it on the front most steering column support studs. The two rear ones will come out with the assembly. You must undo the brake booster from the brake pedal lever. Which is a clip and some bushings, the booster pushrod and the brake switch. TAKE NOTE OF THE DIRECTION THAT THE BUSHINGS WERE FACING FOR EASY REINSTALLATION!!! Once that's done, you can access the 10mm bolt not a nut which is facing straight up in the middle of the pedal assembly. There is also a side bracket, that I've only seen on TownCars that attaches to the middle of the dash support (radio area) which has a very small (unsure of size) bolt on it. Besides that bracket which is easily removed the pedal assemblies are the same.

[87gtVIC]

Appreciate the detailed information John.