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    *sigh* No cluster, Parking, Ashtray, or Tailights

    Pictures at bottom

    Ok bear with me. This has been a very rough past few days.

    I took the whole dash of my car (let's not get into why) to solve an issue. I did. While doing that. Two cables from my headlight switch popped out of their harness (the black ground from the two pin connector and the Blue and White from the 7 pin connector. The black one must have touched something it shouldn't have because I saw a flash of light and burned blew two fuses, 4 and 8.

    I replaced the fuses and everything seemed ok other than the lights. Now there are only two places for the Blue and White Connector to go and BOTH of them are clearly broken(won't snap) The ground only has one other place to go.

    When I plug the blue and white into one I get all the lights except my dash lights working ONLY when I open the door. With the other pin, no change.

    It should be noted, when I turned the headlight switch on, then broken lights flash for maybe less than a second then go off.l, and if I pulled the headlight switch there is a sweet spot between parking lights and headlights where everything works except the dash lights.

    I am at a loss. I warrantied the headlight switch as we'll so we can safely time that out.

    Also if you look the the pictures the brown and white cable literally doesn't connect to a pin at all. It was always been like this and has always worked. All the electrical connectors under the dash are working.

    Thoughts?




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    #2
    The only thing I couldn't find a place for was this. Comes from the wiring for the clock.




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      #3
      Thinking the headlight switch is at fault here. It provides the switching for the dash lights and all the parking lights, so if either of those aren't working, it's typically the switch. Now what wire goes where... there's some guys on here that should know that (or have the ability to find out easy enough). I don't think I have the leftover harness I had any more so I can't check wire colors and slots.

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      Originally posted by gadget73
      ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

      Originally posted by dmccaig
      Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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        #4
        *sigh* No cluster, Parking, Ashtray, or Tailights

        But I put in a new switch today and it changed nothing



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          #5
          are the wires all back in the original places for sure? If not, wait for someone to point you to where those wires actually go.

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          Originally posted by gadget73
          ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

          Originally posted by dmccaig
          Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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            #6
            Will do


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              #7
              I have this but I have no idea how to read it.




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                #8
                Go to the back of the EVTM. There you may find the connector and a breakdown of what wires go where.


                That one connector you have looks like it accepts a 194 bulb. It may be for the climate control unit. That is the only thing in that area I would think that goes to.
                Last edited by 87gtVIC; 04-26-2016, 05:08 PM.
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                  #9
                  Yeah the connector for the climate control is in place. That other connect doesn't reach far enough down to reach the climate control. That's the weird part. I assume maybe it was lighting for the factory radio?


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                    #10
                    Other than the picture, nothing new in this post.

                    What 87gtVic said on the connector diagram. I grabbed one from my '89 EVTM which should be the same as yours.
                    Based on the gray connector being 2 pin instead of 3, you must not have auto headlamps.
                    So here's the diagram for '89 with out auto headlamps:
                    Click image for larger version Name: 1989_Panther_HL_sw_w-o_auto.jpg Views: 1 Size: 55.3 KB ID: 1280048

                    I was also thinking the same thing about that connector/socket being for the climate control.

                    Also, like Sly said, the symptoms do sound like the common symptoms of bad headlight switch. Since you replaced that today, go back to the basics and make sure the wires are indeed in the right place, then go from there.
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                      #11
                      Thank you this picture is what I was looking for


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                        #12
                        I'll guess its the light for the analog clock.


                        LG/Y is the interior light power. This feeds from fuse 8. Output is on black/light blue. This is the under-dash lighting, the door lights, dome light, all that crap. Both of these wires will be hot if one of the doors is open. The door switches simply connect the lg/y and bk/lb wires together when open, just like turning the knob until it clicks does.

                        Tan/white is what feeds power to the instrument lights and the parking lights. This is fed through fuse 4. Output is on the brown wire for parking lights, and through the dimmer knob to the light blue/red for instrument lights. Since none of this is working on your car, I'd be looking at where this is connected to, and to make sure it has power input.

                        http://diagrams.hissind.com/wp-conte...ch-Diagram.jpg

                        that should be the same light switch, but to confirm you'll have it in the back of the EVTM somewhere. I think I'd be looking at buying a new connector. Since your terminals aren't roasted, you can just transfer the wires into the new plastic block rather than cutting and splicing anything.

                        Black/orange is straight off a fuse link under the hood, though the actual physical connection might be in the box. This is the power feed for the headlights.

                        The only thing the ground is for is the dinger for when you leave the lights on. If that got plugged into the wrong place, its a dead short across somewhere. I'd be double checking that you have power at the 3 power input wires. If not, check the fuses again. Verify power feed into the fuses too.
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                          #13
                          *sigh* No cluster, Parking, Ashtray, or Tailights

                          Ok. So connecting the wires to their correct spot corrected everything EXCEPT no dash lights still. Also it should be note the dimmer doesn't dim any of the lights. Interiors will only come on if I turn it all the way to the right.

                          And by dash lights I mean just the lights in the back that light it up. All the warning lights and turn signal bulbs work fine

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                          Last edited by rsolis; 04-26-2016, 05:48 PM.

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                            #14
                            Check all the ground wires hanging under the dash to that block near the steering shaft. It should have extra pins, but if there's anything black wires hanging loose, that might be an issue. There's also some other ring terminal grounds that go to the body behind the kick panels that might also be the grounds for the lights. If you took the dash out, did you get all of those back on when you put it back in?

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                            Originally posted by gadget73
                            ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                            Originally posted by dmccaig
                            Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                              #15
                              Wow. So something is weird. Idk if it's the LEDS but is it possible to screw in those 194 bulbs the wrong way? Apparently I had them all in the wrong way. Everything is working fine now.

                              The only thing that isn't working is the dimmer but honestly I don't care.

                              Thank you so much guys. This was stressing me out to the max


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