Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Brake light fuse pops every time you tap the brakes

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    Brake light fuse pops every time you tap the brakes

    On my brother's MGM (1986 LS), everytime he taps the brakes, the fuse pops. His brake lights are gone. Any idea what could be tripping this fuse?

    We even tried to use a higher 20 amp fuse...same problem
    "To Find yourself, you must first lose yourself"

    -1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy
    -1986 Honda Magna 700cc
    -1989 Lincoln Town car Signature Series
    -2011 Subaru Outback

    #2
    Sounds like a short. Don't think you want to use a higher capacity fuse as that could cover up a bigger issue.


    "Hope and dignity are two things NO ONE can take away from you - you have to relinquish them on your own" Miamibob

    "NEVER trade your passion for glory"!! Sal "the Bard" (Dear Old Dad!)

    "Cars are for driving - PERIOD! I DON'T TEXT, TWEET OR TWERK!!!!"

    Comment


      #3
      Either the brake pedal switch or the multifunction switch or a wiring issue.

      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
      rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

      Originally posted by gadget73
      ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

      Originally posted by dmccaig
      Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

      Comment


        #4
        yeah the bigger fuse was an experiment.

        Where can I find the brake light switch/multifunction switch?

        I am assuming if its a wiring issue I would have to go down the whole wire loom from the front to back, no?

        Since fuses are linked to other operations in the car, im sure the fuse powers more than the brakelights, right? But since the fuse blows when i touch the brake pedal, I can automatically assume we can narrow it down to the brake light circuit, right?
        "To Find yourself, you must first lose yourself"

        -1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy
        -1986 Honda Magna 700cc
        -1989 Lincoln Town car Signature Series
        -2011 Subaru Outback

        Comment


          #5
          Do you have the Owner's Manual to look up the fuse list? That will tell you what they power or you can look it up online.


          "Hope and dignity are two things NO ONE can take away from you - you have to relinquish them on your own" Miamibob

          "NEVER trade your passion for glory"!! Sal "the Bard" (Dear Old Dad!)

          "Cars are for driving - PERIOD! I DON'T TEXT, TWEET OR TWERK!!!!"

          Comment


            #6
            Unfortunately, we were unable to find the owner's manual for the fuse lcations. It would've made sense for Ford to put a sticker display on the panel lid, like every other car made, LOL!
            "To Find yourself, you must first lose yourself"

            -1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy
            -1986 Honda Magna 700cc
            -1989 Lincoln Town car Signature Series
            -2011 Subaru Outback

            Comment


              #7
              the multifunction switch or the brake light switch yea slymer is right on.

              the brake light switch is down on the brake pedal where it hoooks to the brake booster rod
              Click image for larger version

Name:	136876d1313113555-brake-light-switch-help-black-bushing.jpg
Views:	1
Size:	67.4 KB
ID:	1276401

              the multifunction switch is under the column trim, easy to change also.

              1986 lincoln towncar signature series. 5.0 HO with thumper performance ported e7 heads, 1.7 roller rockers, warm air intake, 65mm throttle body, 1/2" intake spacer, ported intakes, 3.73 rear with trac lock, 98-02 front brake conversion, 92-97 rear disc conversion, 1" rear swaybar, 1 3/16" front swaybar, 16" wheels and tires, loud ass stereo system, badass cb, best time to date 15.94 at 87 mph. lots of mods in the works 221.8 rwhp 278 rwt
              2006 Lincoln Town Car Signature. Stock for now
              1989 Ford F-250 4x4 much much more to come, sefi converted so far.
              1986 Toyota pickup with LSC wheels and 225/60/16 tires.
              2008 Hyundai Elantra future Revcon toad
              1987 TriBurner and 1986 Alaska stokers keeping me warm. (and some pesky oil heat)

              please be patient, rebuilding an empire!

              Comment


                #8
                Thanks for the pic, Scott. But where is the switch on the booster. I am looking at the pic, can't find anything. Only thing I see is two wires near the booster side.

                As for the Multi function switch...do you mean the stering column trim???

                I am assuning its cheaper and easier to just buy new?
                "To Find yourself, you must first lose yourself"

                -1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy
                -1986 Honda Magna 700cc
                -1989 Lincoln Town car Signature Series
                -2011 Subaru Outback

                Comment


                  #9
                  The switch is inside the cabin under the dash. It's made of black metal and sort of hooked around the top of the brake pedal arm. Follow the brake pedal arm up and look for a wire going to the pivot

                  85 4 door 351 Civi Crown Victoria - Summer daily driver, sleeper in the making, and wildly inappropriate autocross machine
                  160KMs 600cfm holley, shorty headers, 2.5" catted exhaust, 255/295 tires, cop shocks, cop swaybars, underdrive pulley, 2.73L gears.
                  waiting for install: 3.27's, Poly bushings, boxed rear arms, 2500 stall converter, ported e7's, etc

                  06 Mazda 3 hatch 2.3L 5AT (winter beater that cost more than my summer car)

                  Comment


                    #10
                    also, the multifuction switch is the blinker switch on the steering column. If you unplug the multifunction switch and hit the brake and the fuse still pops... it's probably the brake switch. If not, probably the multifunction switch or wiring from there to the trunk.

                    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                    rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                    Originally posted by gadget73
                    ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                    Originally posted by dmccaig
                    Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

                    Comment


                      #11
                      Start simple - remove and inspect all the brake light bulbs/sockets first, see if it pops with all of them removed. The contacts on the bottoms of 115X type bulbs can melt and spooge out of place, corrosion in the sockets can make them fall apart and short out. Also replacement sockets like to fall apart for no reason.
                      Had your brother done anything to the car recently before this happened?
                      Pete ::::>>> resident LED addict and CFI defector LED bulb replacements
                      'LTD HPP' 85 Vic (my rusty baby) '06 Honda Reflex 250cc 'Baileys' 91 Vic (faded cream puff) ClifFord 'ODB' 88 P72 (SOLD) '77 LTDII (RIP)
                      sigpic
                      85HPP's most noteworthy mods: CFI to SEFI conversion w/HO upperstuff headers & flowmasters P71 airbox Towncar seats LED dash light-show center console w/5 gauge package LED 3rd brake light 3G alternator mini starter washer/coolant bottle upgrade Towncar power trunk pull underhood fuse/relay box 16" HPP wheels - police swaybars w/poly rubbers - budget Alpine driven 10 speaker stereo

                      Comment


                        #12
                        Use a heavy jumper wire to bypass the fuse. Step on the pedal. Wait for smoke to come out and look there. Hope the car doesn't burn in the meantime



                        Common problem is finding a single contact bulb where a dual contact bulb goes. That will short the two pins and cause you all sorts of nonsense. Do the turn signals and parking lamps work correctly? If so, that should clear the actual tail lamps and their wiring from MF switch out to the lamp socket. That leaves the third brake light, the brake light switch, and the MF switch itself. If the turns and/or parking lamps do not work correctly, then you're looking for problems in the left or right rear lamps, depending which side doesn't act right.
                        86 Lincoln Town Car (Galactica).
                        5.0 HO, CompCams XE258,Scorpion 1.72 roller rockers, 3.55 K code rear, tow package, BHPerformance ported E7 heads, Tmoss Explorer intake, 65mm throttle body, Hedman 1 5/8" headers, 2.5" dual exhaust, ASP underdrive pulley

                        91 Lincoln Mark VII LSC grandpa spec white and cranberry

                        1984 Lincoln Continental TurboDiesel - rolls coal

                        Originally posted by phayzer5
                        I drive a Lincoln. I can't be bothered to shift like the peasants and rabble rousers

                        Everything looks like voodoo if you don't understand how it works

                        Comment


                          #13
                          Instead of popping fuses, install a small 12 volt lamp in the fuse socket. It will light up when you have a short. You can also use a 12 volt buzzer. Then dink around and pull connectors etc. until the short goes away.

                          Comment


                            #14
                            These are all good suggestions, I wil be sure to shae this info with him.

                            He's nis not the most auto savvy, so I will help him. He probably installed the wrong bulb.

                            Where exactly on the steering column is the multifunction switch?



                            In addition the turn signal stalk won't stay up or down when you use it to change lanes or want not. I don't know how to xplain it, but its the retainer like thing that keeps the turn signal in that position until you put it back in its neutral position. I think this is a common problem. Is it just cheaper and easier to get another one from the junkyard?
                            "To Find yourself, you must first lose yourself"

                            -1973 Volkswagen Bus Westy
                            -1986 Honda Magna 700cc
                            -1989 Lincoln Town car Signature Series
                            -2011 Subaru Outback

                            Comment


                              #15
                              the turn signal stalk is on the multifunction switch (same part). sounds like that's the issue and probably needs to be replaced.

                              Remove the column shroud and it's 2 bolts and a couple connectors and swap. pretty easy.

                              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                              rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)

                              Originally posted by gadget73
                              ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.

                              Originally posted by dmccaig
                              Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X