5.0 HO winter salvage thread

[andymac0035]

Update, after the rain finally stopped and I got done cleaning up the mess it made.......
I pulled all the crap out of the lincoln's interior. The keys are no-where to be found......

if the column isn't needed for parts, you can usually break the steering lock by reefing on the wheel, or you can try and drill the pin out that locks the cylinder into place. Its small and hardened though, so its probably easier to just bust the casting around the lock cylinder out, and slide it out. Turn the rod inside the column with a screwdriver.

Now.....keeping in mind that I never done something like this before....
Could you give my some pointers as to how best to go about this??

I already popped the the end off, so I could see the lock cylinder.
Tried to break it out into pieces with a chisle.....
Went an got a drill.....then ran out of daylight.

On the plus-side.....Iv'e got the snow around it all cleared out and the rain has it almost down to bare ground.

[Brandon]

When we get junk cars that don't have keys, I just take a mini sledge and beat the hell out of it untill the steering does turn. You'll eventually bust whatever that locks the steering. On some of the cars, there was a little pin that you can mash in with a little screw driver and that will unlock the steerin, but you have to keep the pin mashed in though.

[P72Ford]

I have broken a steering wheel lock by reefing on the wheel.

I've also wedged a cro-bar through the steering wheel to get more leverage.

[andymac0035]

Thank you both.

I should have explained better though....I'm wanting to start the engine.

[85crownHPP]

This is the opener/popper, not the closer/muncher

Well I already pulled the "trunk-sucker" and the whole harness with it, so I guess I must have grabbed that secret part too.

pic of the trunk-sucker stuff

[andymac0035]

That is everthing electrical from the trunk. That wiring harness is intact.

[Brandon]

Thank you both.

I should have explained better though....I'm wanting to start the engine.

You like making things difficult don't you. LOL

[andymac0035]

Ha!......Yes I seem to have a knack for it.......

I figure, if I start the engine and it still sounds good it's worth the effort to try and turn the car around and (try to) yank the whole block. If it starts knocking and ready to blow itself apart......then I know for sure to just start pulling parts for an HO conversion.

So.....I have to take a BFH to the where the (key) lock cylinder is? Then stick a screwdriver in there?
Oh, and this car has an airbag......should I remove that first?

[1987cp]

down to a block and crank it shouldn't be too tough, i'm a lot taller, but the car was way in the air but i pulled it off, and that was using a pretty heavy bar. If you have the will, that block will come out of the car. 200-230lbs with the crank i'm guessing, anyone have a better guess? that shouldn't stop anyone with a friend. idk, maybe im being optimistic, just get mad at it and it will come out:P

Complete engine is about 400-450 pounds, and the head are about 50 pounds each and the intake weighs a little. That'd still be left with a very awkward lift of maybe 300 or so pounds, though if you can rig a pair of extremely stout poles so one guy on each side can lift his 150-plus pounds straight up with his hands at or near his shoulders, it might work. Getting it actually up and out of there would still require some creativity and ingenuity to lift it high enough.

There may, of course, come a point where you'd be better of just taking the cam, heads, and intake and converting your old shortblock.

[Brandon]

Ha!......Yes I seem to have a knack for it.......

I figure, if I start the engine and it still sounds good it's worth the effort to try and turn the car around and (try to) yank the whole block. If it starts knocking and ready to blow itself apart......then I know for sure to just start pulling parts for an HO conversion.

So.....I have to take a BFH to the where the (key) lock cylinder is? Then stick a screwdriver in there?
Oh, and this car has an airbag......should I remove that first?

It is possibe that you can do it that way. I have done that before, but it was on a 86 Model F150. I know there different cars but the truck had like a little pin on top of the column that I had took a srew driver and pushed it forwards and it would crank. BUt more than likely its not made that way. So I don't know if that would work. I belive your idea would work, as long as you don't mess it up too badly to where it wont turn.

I wouldn't think that would trigure the air bag but to be on the safe side I would probably undo it.

[GoodSamaritan]

If you want to start it, pop a battery in it, then run a stout piece of wire from the + side of it to the 35 amp fuse under the dash. One side won't do crap, the other side should power up the dash, windows, radio, etc.

Once you get that, just jump the solenoid to crank the engine. Voila...
Alternatively, you can just go from the + on the battery to the positive side of the coil (red wire?) and start it that way. It will power up the ecm and the engine will run but the battery won't charge and none of the accessories will work.


Also if you check around some of the equipment rental companies, they often have engine hoists for rent reasonable. All you need is a buddy and a pickup then.

[andymac0035]

Alternatively, you can just go from the + on the battery to the positive side of the coil (red wire?) and start it that way. It will power up the ecm and the engine will run but the battery won't charge and none of the accessories will work.

That works for me. The smog pump is froze up so I can't have the belt hooked up anyways......also the clutchfan and it's bolts are long gone too.......

I just want to hear this thing run.

[Brandon]

If you want to start it, pop a battery in it, then run a stout piece of wire from the + side of it to the 35 amp fuse under the dash. One side won't do crap, the other side should power up the dash, windows, radio, etc.

Once you get that, just jump the solenoid to crank the engine. Voila...
Alternatively, you can just go from the + on the battery to the positive side of the coil (red wire?) and start it that way. It will power up the ecm and the engine will run but the battery won't charge and none of the accessories will work.


Also if you check around some of the equipment rental companies, they often have engine hoists for rent reasonable. All you need is a buddy and a pickup then.

No I see how you get your cars. LOL. Jk

[FatNasty]

Complete engine is about 400-450 pounds, and the head are about 50 pounds each and the intake weighs a little. That'd still be left with a very awkward lift of maybe 300 or so pounds, though if you can rig a pair of extremely stout poles so one guy on each side can lift his 150-plus pounds straight up with his hands at or near his shoulders, it might work. Getting it actually up and out of there would still require some creativity and ingenuity to lift it high enough.

There may, of course, come a point where you'd be better of just taking the cam, heads, and intake and converting your old shortblock.

I don't know, enough will power and that thing will come out. Still think a pretty stripped down shortblock can't be more than 250, I just lifted one with a friend 2 hours ago that i bought today and it was easy enough. Granted, getting it up and over the front of the car will be the hardest part. Just taking heads and cam would be 15 times easier for sure.

[GoodSamaritan]

No I see how you get your cars. LOL. Jk

First Pirate accuses me of being a pothead, and now you accuse me of being a thief...

I had to double check and make sure I wasn't on Cvn by mistake!

LoL