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    What kinda motor is it, and how much shipping will it cost me to have you send it here?

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      So I took my engine parts list from here:


      Can anyone tell me what they mean by "grinding" the bottom of the cylinders, and all that?

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        Clearance for the rotating assembly. the rods on that stroker crank will need some metal removed from the block to clear when spinning at temp and RPM range. It's a typical step in stroked engines.

        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
        rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
        Originally posted by gadget73
        ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
        Originally posted by dmccaig
        Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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          The rod bolts will interfere with the bottom of the bore and the pad that the oil pump sits on. An h-beam rod will need more clearance than an i-beam rod.

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            Is that a brutal step?

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              "The basis for this 418 is a production 351 Windsor block that's been bored to 4.030 inches and paired with a 4340 forged-steel crank."

              I presume boring the block is not the same difference?

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                It requires time consuming dremel type work to hog out the locations needed for crank clearance.

                Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
                Originally posted by gadget73
                ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
                Originally posted by dmccaig
                Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                  Fun.

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                    If I read my engine passages from War and Peace would that sufficiently bore it, I wonder?...

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                      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
                      rides: 93 Crown Vic LX (The Red Velvet Cake), 2000 Crown Vic base model (Sandy), 2003 Expedition (the vacation beast)
                      Originally posted by gadget73
                      ... and it should all work like magic and unicorns and stuff.
                      Originally posted by dmccaig
                      Overhead, some poor bastards are flying in airplanes.

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                        Mike, if your half as good with mechanics as with puns....look out!



                        1978 Grand Marquis 460 2door "Blue Bomber"

                        1987 LTD Crown Vic Canadian Tow Package 351w aka the "MI Mountie"

                        1989 Colony Park ....Marge still lives!

                        1979 Marquis creamy goodness

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                          So really, do I get a machine shop to bore the engine block?

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                            For a bore and hone on the cylinders, absolutely. Clearance in the block for a stroker crank is DIY, but the machine shop would probably do it for your since they have it.

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                              DuceAnAHalf (Ryan) has a 351w (probably 358ci) in his vic. If you make it over to Scottfest, I can bring it with me from Tampa and meet you there for pickup

                              If you build a 408w, there's no clearancing needed. IMO, its not worth your trouble for the extra few ci to do a 418w, and a stroker is really a stretch for your plans anyways.

                              RIP Jason P Harril, we'll miss ya bro

                              '80 Town Coupé
                              '84 Towncar - Teh Cobra TC, 408w powered
                              '16 Ram 1500 CC Outdoorsman, Hemi/3.92/8sp 4x4

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                                A lot depends on the rods. An H-beam has bolts set wider than an I-beam. Also there are block casting variations, some will need clearance, some don't.

                                Remember, measure twice, cut once.

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