fastest box?

[Pesty351]

Not happening with ford parts.

[rick99601]

Not happening with ford parts.

im gonna build this fuckin thing.

it doesnt weigh that much more than a mustang, and they can do it.

whats the problem?

[1980c10]

It weighs enough to make a difference. It's could be done with ford parts and forced induction but I don't think ford parts i.e. Heads and intake will flow enough to put a box into the 10's n/a. It would probably take in the neighborhood of 500ish to the wheels with a great suspension and drivetrain combo to put a panther into the 10's. Any short comings in the drivetrain/suspension it will require significantly more I would imagine.

[rick99601]

i knew itd a lot be easier than people are making it sound. (saying it can't be done)

i have no preference on whether its n/a or f/i. really whatevers cheaper as this build wont be easy on the pockets to begin with.

but hey, you gotta pay to play, right?

fuck the bullshit

[rick99601]

didnt anyone see horsepower TV yesterday with that blue, sixites, gm waggin? it ran just shy of 10 seconds with a big block crate motor. n/a.


theres all types of pushrod crate engines to choose from, if i were to go that route. id be a lot closer to my goal than when i started just with that alone.

[Pesty351]

I can be done just not with ford parts. Dont be afraid of aftermarket.

[rick99601]

I can be done just not with ford parts. Dont be afraid of aftermarket.

ohh, really i meant no gm parts.

aftermarkets fine. i probably shouldve just said that..oops

[Pesty351]

Ohh yeah fuck gm. Then you could defiantly do it.

[DuceAnAHalf]

a 351-based stroker motor, good heads like some AFR 205s, a good cam and intake depends on weather you want EFI or carb, and you will either need a top end C4 or AOD, you will have to build a rear suspension (or at least parts of it) since there are no control arms available for it.

My car did go 13.3 with a passenger, a heavier bumper, the nitrous turning off too early, a shit cam and the wrong flex plate. with all those changed except the cam it went mid 8's in the 1/8 which works out to a 12.9 or so.

mine is a 351 .030" over bore, crap .512 lift cam, early GT-40 heads with the exhaust bumps removed, Edelbrock Performer RPM air gap intake stock Holley 650 dp carb with bigger fuel jets, performance Automatic Comp C4 with TCI 10" converter, 3.55 gears, 325/50r15 BFG drag radials, 90/10 front shocks with no sway bar, and a 125 shot of nitrous.

mine is the third fastest pushrod panther, the only two faster were running a 347 with trick Flow heads(Big Blue Tank) he ran 11s and a 408 with AFR's(cowtown cowboy) who ran low 12's IIRC.

So for stock displacement panthers AFAIK im still the fastest @ 13.3 but as it sits its got more in it, and i can always get my AFR 185s back and use my big cam and runs low 13s on motor.

i consider .030" over to be stock since most people do it when rebuilding a motor.

[rick99601]

this is sounding easier and easier the more i hear. maybe ill even keep the a/c. at first i was thinking straight track car. now im thinking more along the lines of a 10 second sleeper.


i dont know why ive been thinking this itd be hard. so far the most involved thing is fabbing up the rear end/suspension.

must be all that HO conversion talk..lol


10 second tudor, here i come!

[P72Ford]

When I have reached my current goal, I will be looking to go low 11s, maybe high 10s, streetably.

Streetable to me, means pump gasoline, a streetable idle (that doesn't mean it can't be gnarly), and overdrive.

Whether it gets done with Ford power, or Cadillac power, is yet to be determined. More than likely Ford stuff.

Probably a windsor stroker, but the significant cubic inch advantage of a 385 series stroker would make things ALOT easier. A 545 or 557? Shiiiiiiiiiit...

[rick99601]

id like it to be streetable as well.

streetable to me is pump gas, full interior, and obviously being able to put it down. ill just smile when they hear the cam (exhaust)

also, OD is optional. fuels meant to burn in the first place, right? and when it burns, you get music from the pipes

the first thing i think of when i hear the word overdrive is 'weak' and no part of that car is gonna be 'weak.'

an E40D would be ok though, i suppose. true 4 speed FTW.

[rick99601]

[Mercracer]

im gonna build this fuckin thing.

it doesnt weigh that much more than a mustang, and they can do it.

whats the problem?

Figure on 1000 more pounds than a Mustang. 100 more horsepower to run an equivalent ET. A stripped down Mustang weighs around 3000 lbs. A stock Crown Vic weighs around 4000 lbs. Even if you lighten it up, figure on worse weight transfer which can give you a worse 60' time, etc. If you figure 100 more HP you should be there. In order to run 9s in a Mustang it takes a pile of horsepower.
You need to build a rear end and transmission to take it. It needs to be SFI certified. Aftermarket axles and 9 inch housing ends to eliminate your C clips if you are going to stay 8.8.

[Mercracer]

the first thing i think of when i hear the word overdrive is 'weak' and no part of that car is gonna be 'weak.'

an E40D would be ok though, i suppose. true 4 speed FTW.

Go AOD with the OD gear set removed. You do not need the weight.